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CCP needs a Grammarian

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Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-09-29 14:41:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Khorkrak
In addition to having an economist on staff, CCP would do well to have someone with expert grammatical skills, one for each localized client available, review all of the text in the game. Still quite a few ridiculous errors. Here's one - post if you spot others. Perhaps we could inspire them to clean this up in the meantime.

Molting Season
The description of the typical unit seems to fit reality pretty well, assuming this was a typical colonization unit. A short inspection of the tracking device shows there is no time to loose, now there are two units in range, the closest one at location...

Here's something that'll help you remember how to avoid such embarrassing slip ups: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling

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ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-09-29 14:44:39 UTC
Mayhaps you should review your own text.
ISD Praetoxx
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-09-29 14:49:13 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Goliath
If you spot any errors in-game, then please submit a bug report and provide as much detail as possible. In almost every patch, there are updates being made to fix such issues.

ISD Praetoxx Lieutenant Community Communication Liasons (CCLs) Interstellar Service Department
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-09-29 15:30:00 UTC
ISD Praetoxx wrote:
If you spot any errors in-game, then please submit a petition and provide as much detail as possible. In almost every patch, there are updates being made to fix such issues.


This would fall under "bug report," wouldn't it?

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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#5 - 2012-09-29 19:59:10 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
In addition to having an economist on staff, CCP would do well to have someone with expert grammatical skills for each localized client available to review all of the text in the game. Still quite a few ridiculous errors. Here's one - post if you spot others. Perhaps we could inspire them to clean this up in the meantime.

Molting Season
The description of the typical unit seems to fit reality pretty well, assuming this was a typical colonization unit. A short inspection of the tracking device shows there is no time to loose, now there are two units in range, the closest one at location...

Here's something that'll help you remember how to avoid such embarrassing slip ups: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling


whose care aboat same gramer errorses?
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#6 - 2012-09-29 21:24:39 UTC
We live in a world where conversations are so bastardized for the sake of brevity that it's a nice change to see an extra letter or two added.

i rkn its gr8 m8

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2012-09-30 02:07:53 UTC
Lets stop devolving towards idiocracy!

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-09-30 02:27:34 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
Lets stop devolving towards idiocracy!


But I liike Brawndo.

Whatever it was called...
Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-09-30 02:43:44 UTC
Well of course 'cause it's got electrolytes!

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-09-30 02:45:12 UTC
But what about the differences between British English and American English words? Which should CCP use?

American and British English spelling differences
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#11 - 2012-09-30 03:55:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
Edited for grammatical errors and ease of reading.

Khorkrak wrote:
In addition to having an economist on staff, CCP should have some people with expert grammatical skills to review text files for each localized client available. There are still quite a few errors in the in-game descriptions of various modules, ammunition, and ships.

Here's one:

Quote:
Molting Season
The description of the typical unit seems to fit reality pretty well, assuming this was a typical colonization unit. A short inspection of the tracking device shows there is no time to loose, now there are two units in range, the closest one at location...


Please post, if you spot others, and perhaps we could inspire them to clean this up in time.

Here's something that will help you remember how to avoid such embarrassing slip ups:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling


Fixed that for you. P

Spelling is vocabulary, rather than grammar, which typically involves word choice, punctuation, and sentence and paragraph structure. For languages other than English, the rules will change of course.

I don't actually mind the errors and manage to ignore it most of the time. It's usually quite obvious from the errors besides, that the translation was done by Icelandic writers while still learning the intricacies of the English language. This is just for the English translation, and probably doesn't apply to translations to other localizations.

Personally, I find it somewhat interesting and characteristic of the Devs background. As such, I haven't ever had an issue with it, and kind of have an appreciation for it. I don't suppose that means it shouldn't be fixed.

Strangely, a lot of players on the forums seem to use loose instead of lose, and I've seen a lot of other errors here too. Heck, I misspell things too; which is actually rather sad, as I managed to get through Communications 12 with near honors. I used to be very good at it, but it seems the years find me slipping. Straight
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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#12 - 2012-09-30 04:06:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
Caviar Liberta wrote:
But what about the differences between British English and American English words? Which should CCP use?

American and British English spelling differences


American of course. UK English is getting out of date by global standards, and more people and organizations are moving to use of Americanized English. It applies to spelling and grammar, and you see more and more use of these new rules on forums, in manuals, and in technical writings everywhere.

People generally find them easier to understand and read, and prefer the less structured grammar to the extremely inundated grammar of traditional English. It's much easier to adapt to for those to whom the English language is a foreign language as well, I imagine.

I had to learn i myself, just a year or more ago, to avoid getting trolled off the forums here for my absurd use of grammar. Fortunately, it took me less than a month to adapt the use of it at the time, and I found people bother me less, and then not at all. School systems here still use traditional English of course, and I don't think that is going to change anytime soon.

Shakespearean English fairly well died, with exception to theater and medieval reenactment, and I don't see why the same won't happen to English used in the UK now eventually. Times change, languages adapt to a changing social environment and we all move on. No shame in that.

edit: The primary difference, is that one is much more like talking or holding a conversation than the other. Americanized English is much easier to read, and much easier to communicate in.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-09-30 05:32:58 UTC
Like an Amarrian but takes offense at bad spelling?

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ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#14 - 2012-09-30 05:44:33 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
Caviar Liberta wrote:
But what about the differences between British English and American English words? Which should CCP use?

American and British English spelling differences


American of course. UK English is getting out of date by global standards, and more people and organizations are moving to use of Americanized English. It applies to spelling and grammar, and you see more and more use of these new rules on forums, in manuals, and in technical writings everywhere.

People generally find them easier to understand and read, and prefer the less structured grammar to the extremely inundated grammar of traditional English. It's much easier to adapt to for those to whom the English language is a foreign language as well, I imagine.

I had to learn i myself, just a year or more ago, to avoid getting trolled off the forums here for my absurd use of grammar. Fortunately, it took me less than a month to adapt the use of it at the time, and I found people bother me less, and then not at all. School systems here still use traditional English of course, and I don't think that is going to change anytime soon.

Shakespearean English fairly well died, with exception to theater and medieval reenactment, and I don't see why the same won't happen to English used in the UK now eventually. Times change, languages adapt to a changing social environment and we all move on. No shame in that.

edit: The primary difference, is that one is much more like talking or holding a conversation than the other. Americanized English is much easier to read, and much easier to communicate in.

I for one will never spell colour or authorised incorrectly, no matter how many times MS word tells me im wrong

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2012-09-30 12:25:28 UTC
Thanks for the rewrite Mars - much better. The primary reason I posted this honestly was the use of loose. It irks me that people keep misspelling lose as loose. It's become so commonplace though.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-09-30 12:40:34 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
Thanks for the rewrite Mars - much better. The primary reason I posted this honestly was the use of loose. It irks me that people keep misspelling lose as loose. It's become so commonplace though.


Or "your" instead of "you're"

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Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-09-30 12:50:25 UTC
ThisIsntMyMain wrote:
Mayhaps you should review your own text.


I think he should stop giving such a huge crap. The amount of crap that was given here is easily more than the amount of crap given about that one time when someone told someone else to commit suicide Shocked

How do you even eat so much to be able to give so much of a crap on your own :D
CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#18 - 2012-09-30 15:54:10 UTC
We have several very skilled editors in-house, they just don't have time to look at every sentence in the game right now. If you do spot errors, please file a bug report and they will get fixed (I know this because I fix a lot of them myself).
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-09-30 15:59:11 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
In addition to having an economist on staff, CCP would do well to have someone with expert grammatical skills, one for each localized client available, review all of the text in the game.


This was fixed by someone else, but is a nice run on sentence.

Pot, meet kettle.
Pyotr Kamarovi
Out Of The Depths Academy
xX SERENITY Xx
#20 - 2012-09-30 16:06:17 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
Thanks for the rewrite Mars - much better. The primary reason I posted this honestly was the use of loose. It irks me that people keep misspelling lose as loose. It's become so commonplace though.


I think you're mistaking double-tapping the "o" key and not proofreading for intentional ignorance.
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