Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And we should give a crap why exactly its my money after all and if i want to spend my 15 bucks a month to blow up idiot miners and mission runners why shouldnt i its not your problem and the only way its effecting you is that pathetic moral code of yours

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If you would pull yourself out of your "pound the carebears" mentality, then you would have noticed that the OP was about the fact that the war Dec system is alolowing for low risk pvp. You yourself have probably complained about the low risk for carebears in high sec, yet you and others fail to realize that unlike carebears, these guys are getting the same rewards as true pvpers but they're getting their kills for much less risk.

To add to that, if you read the rest of the post on here you will see that myself and others have made suggestions, but apparently you're one of those guys that likes to comment on crap that you don't know the full story on.

Also, at the moment this is my main. I've been focusing on his skills, sec status, and standings.

And why would I post on my main for people like you to QQ about my posts and try to bring your tears into the game.

Risalo... I'll give you points for "white-knighting" to the carebear cause and hanging in there despite heavy trolling... but seriously... you don't need to introduce special "protections" to anyone because the rules already give people the flexibility to protect themselves.

- Don't want to be war-decced in the first place? Keep your head low (i.e. don't fly anything "special"), don't smacktalk, and use your "people skills" to your advantage (note: this isn't a character skill, it's a RL skill).
- Been war decced by a bunch of "12 year olds"? Jump corp and leave a holding alt in it... you have now made the deccers waste 2 mil and caused them a bit of "logistical grief." Or better yet... get everyone in corp to spend the next 4 days training up Rifters and/or T1 cruisers, fit them out for pure gankage, lure your attackers to a station you are all sitting in, undock all at once, and gun for the most expensive hull they are fielding. If you kill said expensive ship you'll see that war dec go away REAL fast.
- Think you are entitled to peace, quiet, and "fairness"? Nope. This is EVE. You should never create what you are unwilling to defend and/or lose. Use the rules to your advantage and stop caring about E-honor.

So basically the CSM's are saying what I've been saying for a long time now.

They're saying that war is too cheap, overly favors the aggressor, and is pretty much pointless as a WAR system.

While the CSMs had some good suggestions they also had some not so good.

They had suggested that the loser would have to pay a certain amount of reparations for losing, but this I cannot go for.

Instead of losing, now you have to pay when you lose. Makes the illigitimate war deck that more profitable, so no.

My suggestions.

Make war costs more, a lot more. - Currently the cost of a corp vs. corp war dec is about 2mil isk. This is rediculous. The cost of a corp vs corp war dec should be 100mil. For an alliance to declare war on a corp it should be 200 mil or more. While for a corp to declare war on an alliance, it will be 100mil as well.
This price range is low enough for meaningful war decs, but might be enough to disolve the petty war decs.

Add the merc addition to war decs. However, mercs ar not directly tied to either corp. So they would be free to shoot both corps freely, so hiring them can be just as risky as flying against them.

Corps should not display their member count. This to keep people from taking advantage of this number. If you wanna war dec a corp, you better be damn sure you want to cause you'll have no clue how many people are in that corp.

To keep other routes from being taken advantage of. You should be allowed to kick a member from the corp, even if they're in space. This is to keep the ones that come into the corp to try and get free kills from being able to lock you in.

War decs should have a victory condition in order to continue the war dec..

However, turtling will be something hard to fight.

If a corp turtles from the beginning, well, you should have wardec'd a corp that would fight. However, when it comes to turtling the ones I worry about are the ones that would turtle because they're losing.

Perhaps a way to fight this is to lower the requirements of victory conditions every day that the defender doesn't fight, up to reducing it to 0, keeping the corp attacking corp from presumably losing the war because the opposing corp refuses to fight.
Not fighting and turtling in a station means you're losing. It should count towards your war losses and everyone should be able to see.

There are probably more things that I'll think of later on throught the thread, but right now i'm eating pan cakes.