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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#21 - 2012-09-29 02:48:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Akirei Scytale wrote:


I'm a US citizen who had the fortune of growing up in six different countries, learning history from six perspectives. Pretty easy to figure out whats true and whats bullshit after that.

@ Plunderbunny: Germany only ever truly held Northern France, and Paris was a hotbed of Resistance activity. They were practically fighting a battle against invisible foes and losing men and materiele every day.

RE: Pacific War, yes, that was the US's battlefield, but you can't neglect the fact that Japan was only willing to surrender once the USSR declared war (they offered surrender with one condition when the USSR entered the war, that condition being that the Emperor be allowed to retain his position. The US refused, dropped nukes, then accepted surrender with the same goddamn condition.) Australia also played a role similar to England's in the Pacific. They were being a royal pain to invade, and were similarly strategically necessary for Japan.


I would say that you're probably a military brat then, not many Americans get to experience that outside of the military. I to grew up in several countries, mostly European but the US was one of them, I'm an army brat and somewhere along the lines my dad managed to get attached to US forces for a year or two.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#22 - 2012-09-29 02:50:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

I would say that you're probably a military brat then, not many Americans get to experience that outside of the military. I to grew up in several countries, mostly European but the US was one of them, I'm an army brat and somewhere along the lines my dad managed to get attached to US forces for a year or two.


Diplomatic Service brat, which is basically the same thing. My father's family was also a military one, so I guess I'm an army brat too. He grew up with that discipline and instilled it in us.

Vile Rat's death hit me really hard - I've been considering the exact line of work he was in for a very long time. I can't sit still in one country for long without going crazy, and I've almost completed an education in Computer Science. Its dangerous work, but its the lifestyle I know and love.

Expats unite!
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-09-29 04:19:32 UTC
Drones are like mosquitos: They sting and die easily. ... but a fleet of droneboats can **** your face with them and is almost completely immune to ECM.

Rails are like poking sticks: They annoy people. ... but a fleet of rail rokhs alphas a ship every 7 seconds

Blasters are like farts: They are nasty only if you are close. ... thats why you bring friends with huginns/web lokis.


Josef Djugashvilis
#24 - 2012-09-29 07:49:55 UTC
Mai Khumm wrote:
Gallente is the french, they run at the first sign of trouble...

Frog legs taste good too...


They did run out of Vietnam...as did the Americans in 1973.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-09-29 08:34:19 UTC
Oh look, another anti-American thread.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#26 - 2012-09-29 08:49:44 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Oh look, another anti-American thread.


What's so anti american about it? Sure some of us are having a bit of a giggle at the US's expense regarding their view on history, including some Americans but there's no anti american sentiment as far as I can tell.

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Luc Chastot
#27 - 2012-09-29 08:54:40 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Oh look, another anti-American thread.


What's so anti american about it? Sure some of us are having a bit of a giggle at the US's expense regarding their view on history, including some Americans but there's no anti american sentiment as far as I can tell.


Also, if you read the OP...

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#28 - 2012-09-29 08:56:52 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

Well we had to go get Paris back for the 2nd time in 50 years from the same people P


The damn French Resistance played a larger part in the European theatre than the US. God, US schools waaaaay overblow their importance in Europe during WW2. That war was almost entirely won by the Soviet Union, with England's refusal to be conquered being the second biggest factor and the fact that Germany could never get a complete foothold in France being the third.

WW2 was decided in Stalingrad and Kursk. Normandy was an afterthought, a kick while they were down.


I realize you might be at least somewhat correct historically speaking, but please don't disrespect the fact that millions of Canadians laid down their lives for that. I'm not sure how many the US fielded and lost in WW2, but I'm certain it wasn't insignificant. Regardless, my Country lost a lot of people over there and I don't appreciate the inference that we over here didn't do anything..
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#29 - 2012-09-29 09:09:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Mars Theran wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

Well we had to go get Paris back for the 2nd time in 50 years from the same people P


The damn French Resistance played a larger part in the European theatre than the US. God, US schools waaaaay overblow their importance in Europe during WW2. That war was almost entirely won by the Soviet Union, with England's refusal to be conquered being the second biggest factor and the fact that Germany could never get a complete foothold in France being the third.

WW2 was decided in Stalingrad and Kursk. Normandy was an afterthought, a kick while they were down.


I realize you might be at least somewhat correct historically speaking, but please don't disrespect the fact that millions of Canadians laid down their lives for that. I'm not sure how many the US fielded and lost in WW2, but I'm certain it wasn't insignificant. Regardless, my Country lost a lot of people over there and I don't appreciate the inference that we over here didn't do anything..


Canada & Australia would be counted along with England as part of the British Commonwealth, which still exists to this day in the form of the Commonwealth of Nations. By no means is anybody belittling the contribution that all the men who gave their lives in 2 world wars made to this world.

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Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-09-29 09:20:37 UTC
Theodoric Darkwind wrote:
Drones are like mosquitos: They sting and die easily. ... but a fleet of droneboats can **** your face with them and is almost completely immune to ECM.







You mean 150 Archons with sentries Twisted

...nah you guys would never drop that. Big smile
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#31 - 2012-09-29 09:23:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

Well we had to go get Paris back for the 2nd time in 50 years from the same people P


The damn French Resistance played a larger part in the European theatre than the US. God, US schools waaaaay overblow their importance in Europe during WW2. That war was almost entirely won by the Soviet Union, with England's refusal to be conquered being the second biggest factor and the fact that Germany could never get a complete foothold in France being the third.

WW2 was decided in Stalingrad and Kursk. Normandy was an afterthought, a kick while they were down.


I realize you might be at least somewhat correct historically speaking, but please don't disrespect the fact that millions of Canadians laid down their lives for that. I'm not sure how many the US fielded and lost in WW2, but I'm certain it wasn't insignificant. Regardless, my Country lost a lot of people over there and I don't appreciate the inference that we over here didn't do anything..


Canada & Australia would be counted along with England as part of the British Commonwealth, which still exists to this day in the form of the Commonwealth of Nations. By no means is anybody belittling the contribution that all the men who gave their lives in 2 world wars made to this world.


Heh.. just checked it and realized my numbers were a little high. Roll It's late, I'm tired, and I learned about it when I was a kid. Just over 40K in WW2 and over 60K in WW1 if the websites are to be believed. Apparently, they can't get it right from one to the next. Approximation of those numbers is consistent though.

Of course, it's entirely possible the Vets could have been elaborating a bit to create a greater impact on their audience. I don't recall exactly, but I do know the Canadian school system has a tendency to bs it's students from time to time. Like teachers claiming they make barely 30K a year, when in fact, they are making much more than that.

Don't ask me why people can't just be direct and honest; might help them get a little respect, and help their students learn more accurate information. Maybe they just don't figure we'll remember any of it. Well, here it is, 28 years later, and I still remember my teacher telling the class they only made 32K per year.

Not sure about the other bit. Still, not insignificant as a matter of any lives lost, but certainly not millions. What?

edit: Actually, they could have been counting the entirety of the Allies, because I recall they said about 6 million and that's about right.
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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#32 - 2012-09-29 09:31:27 UTC
wtf is this political bullshit doing in an internet spaceships thread! Wake up guys :D

As what comes to Gallente, 20bil ISK in kills last month with blasters and drones.

Imma just gonna leave this here: http://i.imgur.com/QEQlJ.jpg




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Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#33 - 2012-09-29 13:54:47 UTC
Roime wrote:
wtf is this political bullshit doing in an internet spaceships thread! Wake up guys :D

As what comes to Gallente, 20bil ISK in kills last month with blasters and drones.

Imma just gonna leave this here: http://i.imgur.com/QEQlJ.jpg





Internet spaceships is political bullshit.
Euphoriiia
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-09-29 14:04:31 UTC
Well this thread got derailed in record time....
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#35 - 2012-09-29 14:12:00 UTC
Euphoriiia wrote:
Well this thread got derailed in record time....

On the other hand, the new conversation was certainly more interesting than the OP's one.
Sarmea Moon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-09-29 14:15:21 UTC
Luc Chastot wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Luc Chastot wrote:
I'm probably just pissed at CCP. The new dessy adds nothing new to the table, I was really hoping for a true drone boat, and not some half-azzed split weapon systems thing.
Got link?

Nice analogies by the way, personally I enjoy sending in my swarm of mosquitos to annoy my target as I rush in and fart in their general direction.


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That's a complete mess. The Amarr drone boat should be the Gallente Dessy. Catalyst is just like the Thorax- guns, guns, and guns. Vexor is drone boat. Look at our BSes- drone boat Domi, or guns guns guns mega. Some halfass hybrid isn't going to cut it.

The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll

ISD Praetoxx
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-09-29 14:26:49 UTC
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