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Hedion University Amarr Empire 10
Vokradacka Hedion University Amarr Empire Likes received: 10	#21 - 2012-09-26 13:18:01 UTC 1 CNR + Golem ill be probably good after missile change . T2 torpedos with TE\TC ill make great dps at BIG range(1200dps\50km\max dps to cruisers) .... Cruise m. sux and ill be :(

Tarinara

Doomheim

Likes received: 15

#22 - 2012-09-26 21:09:12 UTC

John Ratcliffe wrote:

I suspect the OP is smoking crack. There is nothing at all wrong with CMs. They aren't getting a nerf AFAIK (unless something's been announced in the last few days) and are awesome for mission running.

If the OP wants a Turret ship then crack on, but don't delude yourself into thinking CMs blow because that's bollocks.

And I suspect the replier stopped reading at the comma in the subject line then switched on troll mode. I also suspect the replier didn't bother readings any responses: 'Lackluster performance' does not equal 'blow' last I heard. And this seeming lack of performance is from past action, not the incoming HAM/HML adjustments.

Thanks for playing though. Your trolling is duly noted... Lol


Tarinara Doomheim Likes received: 15	#23 - 2012-09-28 02:22:04 UTC 1 sigh And now that I'm done farming a blood/angel WC - maybe it's just doing those damn Gist NPCs ( 2nd room in specific ) that was giving the impression of slowness.

The Scope Gallente Federation 17
Aquavolt The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 17	#24 - 2012-09-28 08:22:13 UTC 1 Tarinara wrote: have pretty much put them into the lackluster/down right suck category. Down right "suck" doesn't = blow? I'm sorry lol what? I used a navy apoc a few patches ago, Apocrypha or Dominion I can't remember, it was OK, didn't complete missions as fast as I'd like it to,

Heretic University 6,134
Serena Serene Heretic University Likes received: 6,134	#25 - 2012-09-28 11:47:07 UTC 3 I honestly doubt you can make an accurate judgement about mission performance after being away for a year. You probably just wrongly remember the missions being easier or faster. This kind of thing happens all the time, that's where the talk about the "good old days" comes from.

Tarinara

Doomheim

Likes received: 15

#26 - 2012-09-28 17:38:14 UTC | Edited by: Tarinara

Aquavolt wrote:

Down right "suck" doesn't = blow?

I'm sorry lol what?

I used a navy apoc a few patches ago, Apocrypha or Dominion I can't remember, it was OK, didn't complete missions as fast as I'd like it to,

LOL - I suppose in a sexual context 'suck' and 'blow' equal the same thing too. Since you quoted the main point of the statement, I'll guess pulling one word out to make an argument was just practice for a political PR job. Rush Limbaugh might have use of your services. His stuff has been pretty stale for a few years now. Blink

I do give you 10/10 for the apoc comment and contributing to the actual thread. Doesn't happen on Eve-O that often and I feel I should encourage you on that! Big smile

Serena: Like I mentioned above - it may have just been being on those Angel missions. I got a few Blood missions the other day and those went fairly well. dare I say it ( for fear of having words taken out of context ), almost like 'Old Times'. Blink

Aquavolt

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 17

#27 - 2012-09-28 21:37:01 UTC | Edited by: Aquavolt

Well I mostly live in gallente space around Dodixie, so I'm mainly up against Serpentis, Blood Raiders, and Angel Cartel.

Perhaps EM/Therm against those NPC factions just isn't the best choice of weapon damage, or maybe I was just downright a bad player?

The past few months I've been grinding in my proteus sticking with Kin/Therm with 6 250mm Rails and drones, I'd like to say it completes missions faster than a navy apoc, but I can't say for sure. It really does feel good flying around at 600m/s though.

However, I just about completed my training for a Navy Scorpion so I'll have my first taste of [Insert Generic Caldari Mission Ship Here] mission grinding.

AFAIK Amarr Battleships aren't bad, just try and use them in the right areas of space where NPCs are weak to EM/Therm

John Ratcliffe

Tradors'R'us

IChooseYou Alliance

Likes received: 293

#28 - 2012-09-28 22:57:54 UTC

Tarinara wrote:

I wasn't trolling. Don't awaken the beast Blink

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Tarinara

Doomheim

Likes received: 15

#29 - 2012-09-29 00:11:32 UTC

*Hands John a Monster Energy Drink* Steady big fella... Bear

Aqua: I do enough missioning in Amarr space that T2 Pulse + Scorch at least in theory sounds like a viable alternative on Bloods and Sansha. Guess I can find out for certain in about 50 days and T2 Pulse.

I finally settled on Navy Faction Novas for those Angels just to get some damage on them. And I still felt like I was unloading an awful lot of missiles at 'em to do it. T2 Furys had even worse damage than a regular cruise. I'm guessing not running a 3 rigor + tp DPS setup contributed to that. *shrug*

Aquavolt

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 17

#30 - 2012-09-29 06:55:18 UTC

I may be going slightly off topic here:

[Scorpion Navy Issue, New Setup 1]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Target Painter
Republic Fleet Target Painter
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Hammerhead II x5

This is the fit I'll be using, as you can see it heavily relies on reducing explosion velocity/radius.

Yeah just look up some good fits for Amarr BS's and I'm sure you'll do fine :)

Morrigan LeSante

Perkone

Caldari State

Likes received: 1,562

#31 - 2012-10-01 10:40:59 UTC

Aquavolt wrote:

Wait until you can swap a TP for a TC (unless they mess with the stacking)...I'd wager this will be one of the few [large missile] boats to actually apply the paper DPS, or at least get close to it.

Although fury is getting a sig bloom and a damage bloom too - no numbers yet - could be bad when not shooting at small planets. On the other hand, it could be good. Or neutral Blink

...point is...it's changing and we as yet do not know how.

Mike Whiite

Deep Core Mining Inc.

Caldari State

Likes received: 398

#32 - 2012-10-03 14:11:00 UTC

Morrigan LeSante wrote:

Aquavolt wrote:

...point is...it's changing and we as yet do not know how.

^ This, when and if the TD/TC/TE going to affect missiles, the NSI probably becomes a PVE Master.

Sal Landry

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 271

#33 - 2012-10-03 19:08:04 UTC

Aquavolt wrote:

Good, but if you're spending that much on it you should upgrade two of the rigs to T2, and DG XL boosters are mmuch cheaper than CN with the same stats.

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