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Navy Faction Omen or Tech II Zealot?
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Sowilla
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-09-28 17:10:30 UTC
I'm on the hunt for an Amarr cruiser. I can currently fly a Navy Faction Omen. But my question is, should I wait and train for the Tech II Zealot? Is this a better ship? It seems very similar to the Navy Faction version but I'd like to hear some opinions. Thanks!

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2012-09-28 17:23:28 UTC
What do you want to use them for?

Zealot gets better range and good resists, but it lacks drones and therefor has trouble with frigates.
Sowilla
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-09-29 03:01:12 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
What do you want to use them for?

Zealot gets better range and good resists, but it lacks drones and therefor has trouble with frigates.

I was planning on using it when I hit level II missions. I already have an Omen, but I want to upgrade it.

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-09-29 04:04:36 UTC
L2s are still mostly frigates, so a NOmen is going to be a better bet. A Zealot shouldn't really have serious problems, but you'd have to fly quite actively and keep range to make sure nothing gets under your guns.
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-09-29 04:07:08 UTC
I don't know about Amarr, but when I started L2s, I used an Assault Frigate(Wolf) instead of anything cruiser sized.
Sowilla
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-09-29 04:55:45 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
L2s are still mostly frigates, so a NOmen is going to be a better bet. A Zealot shouldn't really have serious problems, but you'd have to fly quite actively and keep range to make sure nothing gets under your guns.

Okay, thanks for the feedback!

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Sowilla
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-09-29 04:56:26 UTC
Hakaimono wrote:
I don't know about Amarr, but when I started L2s, I used an Assault Frigate(Wolf) instead of anything cruiser sized.

Nice, I'll check it out. But I do like Amarr since I get major laser turret bonuses.

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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-09-29 05:25:14 UTC
For L2s the nomen all the way.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#9 - 2012-09-29 05:39:44 UTC
False. Coercer is where its at for L2s. Dont waste money on a Navy Omen .
Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-09-29 06:13:08 UTC
for lvl 2's, I'd use either a coercer, an arbitrator, or a retribution (according to what type of ship you want to fly). Once you upgrade to lvl 3's, then I would look at harbinger, zealot, sacrilege, or navy omen (or absolution if you're feeling really pimp). Then for lvl 4's, you either have the battleship lineup, or you have the absolution or the legion.
Marcus Gideon
Triglavian Assembly
#11 - 2012-09-29 06:21:41 UTC
In almost every regard, the NOmen comes out over the Zealot.

Although the Zealot has T2 resists, the slot layout and drones tend to win over.

I know a fair number of pilots who, for both PvE and PvP matters, they'd rather use the NOmen.

Now if they redid the Zealot a little... maybe added a drone bay or a utility high...
Sowilla
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-09-29 11:48:58 UTC
Cool, thanks for all the info!

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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#13 - 2012-09-29 12:36:40 UTC
i was useing a punisher up to lvl 3's , dunno why you would need a cruiser?
Nor Tzestu
Dos Pollos Hermanos
Ghosts from the Abyss
#14 - 2012-09-29 13:41:24 UTC
ITTigerClawIK wrote:
i was useing a punisher up to lvl 3's , dunno why you would need a cruiser?



I'm with this. A beam punisher or coercer is the way to go for amarr level 2's.
Cipio Hakoke
Tactical Manufacturing Group
#15 - 2012-09-29 15:12:20 UTC
I currently am using the navy omen to run lvl 3s. It is a lot of fun to me. I used the navy omen for lvl 1 and 2 and now 3s, I Plan on going into Apocalypse for level 4s.

On a note I have very low SP (tech1 everything except cap recharger mids) So you should have no problem with a Navy Omen on level 3s.. I suggest going for apocalypse for level 4s.. Based on my research it is the best to start out doing level 4s with.
Herc K
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-09-29 17:27:34 UTC
from my experience.... FC's words:

" zealot fleet guys, if you cannot fly one, try your best with a Omen Navy Issue" .... :-)

Go with the Navy Issue one and keep training for the Zealot......
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2012-09-29 17:32:43 UTC
Sowilla wrote:
I was planning on using it when I hit level II missions.
Then you can skip the Zealot completely. It's not a good PvE boat.
Herc K
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-09-29 17:39:13 UTC
ops... I believe I missed this "mission" part.... Tippia has a point.....
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2012-09-29 17:44:24 UTC
I suppose you could do some Sansha or Blood belt ratting with it, but beyond that… brrr…
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-09-29 18:12:46 UTC
since when was it a good idea to use a 200m ship to run missions that'll barely get you 2m?

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
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