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Mining, Conflict Drivers, and High Sec Warfare

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Oso Curioso
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-09-29 00:30:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Oso Curioso
While scoping out spots for mining recently, I have noticed two things. One, you're ****** if you don't live in the EU. They'll cherry pick all the good stuff while you're still drinking your morning coffee at work in South/North America. Two, if you wanted to do something about it, that is, follow the EVE mantra of limited resources = conflict driver, you can't because the war dec mechanics make that impossible.

Is there or has there ever been any possibility that respawn rates for roids might change? Not necessarily that all of the roids in a belt would respawn, but that individual roids would respawn on some sort of random schedule.

Is there any way to compete for the roids other than time zone hopping to mine before they do? Is there any way other than suicide ganking to get at someone who leaves the corp you dec?

There are some mining groups out there that are stripping entire constellations. It doesn't seem EVE-like that I can't get at them. I'm more than willing to hop in a ship for some pvp or to hire mercs, but neither seems realistic. Am I missing something?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-09-29 00:37:20 UTC
Go out to nullsec

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Oso Curioso
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-09-29 00:38:16 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Go out to nullsec

that has nothing to do with my questions
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-09-29 00:46:14 UTC
Filing this under "evidence of imbalance caused by recent changes to mining barges".
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#5 - 2012-09-29 00:47:03 UTC
IF anything was ever to change for mining, it would have been perhaps part of Ring mining. Yet that's been put back for a POS overhaul first. So many next winter... or longer. Since mining as a mechanic haven't been touched much since its creation. You wait or get a new job. They have been stating in the past two years or so, they are not much for bandaging mechanics and waiting tell there is ample work load on the project. As I peek over FW... I wouldn't get my hopes up on ring mining either.
Euphoriiia
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-09-29 00:49:42 UTC
Don't mine. Do something more profitable and just pay those same miners to do the work for you...
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#7 - 2012-09-29 00:54:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Paul Oliver wrote:
Filing this under "evidence of imbalance caused by recent changes to mining barges".


Not really evidence, people were stripping entire constellations of all the good stuff way before CCP buffed the mining barges. I have a character with a procuror that mines outside of the EU TZ (primarily because I'm an insomniac) and don't have any real problems pulling in all the the +5 and +10% ores even at silly'o'clock GMT, sometimes I mine for so long I create a dirty great hole in a belt and think "I did that" and then go back to the station to roll around in my pile of minerals whilst giggling like a little girl.

Find a 0.6, 0.5 or a lowsec system with very low average population and you'll find fat belts ripe for the plucking no matter what time of day it is, unless I've got there 1st in which case :razz:.

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Selinate
#8 - 2012-09-29 00:56:37 UTC
Quit bitching about the lack of resources in high sec and explore something else.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#9 - 2012-09-29 01:01:25 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Go out to nullsec

That seems to be the answer for everything nowadays, doesn't it? But it's really to be expected from someone who can't even attribute their own forum signature to a proper author.

OP: if it's a timezone thing, then you'll have to hire someone else to either go to war with them (despite Inferno, this is still viable to the last tiny shred of extent), or maybe bump-grief them out of the systems you like. This option has the positive side effects of creating more pvp opportunities in empire, and supporting the mercenary industry. You can also consider moving to more out-of-the-way areas, which are seldom populated. You'll need a freighter to move the minerals, probably.

Or you can just take the corpse's advice and pack all your crap into a hauler and take a trip to null, so the sheeple derpers who are too chicken-**** to die in groups of less than a hundred have something to hot-drop.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#10 - 2012-09-29 01:01:39 UTC
Clearly highsec mining needs a buff. Roll
Tinja Soikutsu
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-09-29 01:02:51 UTC
Ohh noez the system I want to mine is getting strip mined and I can't be bothered finding low population systems! What ever can I doooo?
Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
#12 - 2012-09-29 01:04:50 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Quit bitching about the lack of resources in high sec and explore something else.

^^this

Jonah is right too, find a nice quiet corner of low-sec and go mine till your eyes bleed, better ores too

Your only excuse for not doing so is that you want to AFK.

You could also join a null-sec alliance/corp and keep their industry index up for them.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#13 - 2012-09-29 01:06:02 UTC
~ Start training your skills for probing and use them to scan down Grav Sites

~ Go to Amarr Medium Sec by Gallente Space where all the Kernite is

~ Get in a Wormhole Corp and mine their Roids

~ Go to Nullsec, join an Alliance and mine their Roids

~ Find quiet space and mine Roids

~ Get in a Lowsec Pirate gang and mine Roids while they Gatecamp

zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-09-29 01:10:02 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Go out to nullsec

That seems to be the answer for everything nowadays, doesn't it? But it's really to be expected from someone who can't even attribute their own forum signature to a proper author.

OP: if it's a timezone thing, then you'll have to hire someone else to either go to war with them (despite Inferno, this is still viable to the last tiny shred of extent), or maybe bump-grief them out of the systems you like. This option has the positive side effects of creating more pvp opportunities in empire, and supporting the mercenary industry. You can also consider moving to more out-of-the-way areas, which are seldom populated. You'll need a freighter to move the minerals, probably.

Or you can just take the corpse's advice and pack all your crap into a hauler and take a trip to null, so the sheeple derpers who are too chicken-**** to die in groups of less than a hundred have something to hot-drop.


It's to be expected from someone new here with less than 1000 likes will try to hurt my feelings in GD Bear

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#15 - 2012-09-29 01:10:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Mars Theran wrote:
~ Start training your skills for probing and use them to scan down Grav Sites No these are mine

~ Go to Amarr Medium Sec by Gallente Space where all the Kernite is Also mine

~ Get in a Wormhole Corp and mine their Roids Find a wormhole and then steal all their roids when they're asleep, bear in mind that Gravs in WH's only spawn occasionally and you'll have to kill the NPC guard dogs when they roll up 20 minutes after you start mining, don't try it solo in an exhumer you'll explode in an amusing fashion & end up podding yourself to get home.

~ Go to Nullsec, join an Alliance and mine their Roids

~ Find quiet space and mine Roids This is mine to

~ Get in a Lowsec Pirate gang and mine Roids while they Gatecamp



All good suggestions, however please don't give people ideas, besides at the moment Scordite > Kernite

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Josef Djugashvilis
#16 - 2012-09-29 01:12:41 UTC
Oso Curioso wrote:
While scoping out spots for mining recently, I have noticed two things. One, you're ****** if you don't live in the EU. They'll cherry pick all the good stuff while you're still drinking your morning coffee at work in South/North America. Two, if you wanted to do something about it, that is, follow the EVE mantra of limited resources = conflict driver, you can't because the war dec mechanics make that impossible.

Is there or has there ever been any possibility that respawn rates for roids might change? Not necessarily that all of the roids in a belt would respawn, but that individual roids would respawn on some sort of random schedule.

Is there any way to compete for the roids other than time zone hopping to mine before they do? Is there any way other than suicide ganking to get at someone who leaves the corp you dec?

There are some mining groups out there that are stripping entire constellations. It doesn't seem EVE-like that I can't get at them. I'm more than willing to hop in a ship for some pvp or to hire mercs, but neither seems realistic. Am I missing something?


Adapt or die - move to Europe.

This is not a signature.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-09-29 01:15:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Oso Curioso wrote:
While scoping out spots for mining recently, I have noticed two things. One, you're ****** if you don't live in the EU. They'll cherry pick all the good stuff while you're still drinking your morning coffee at work in South/North America. Two, if you wanted to do something about it, that is, follow the EVE mantra of limited resources = conflict driver, you can't because the war dec mechanics make that impossible.

Is there or has there ever been any possibility that respawn rates for roids might change? Not necessarily that all of the roids in a belt would respawn, but that individual roids would respawn on some sort of random schedule.

Is there any way to compete for the roids other than time zone hopping to mine before they do? Is there any way other than suicide ganking to get at someone who leaves the corp you dec?

There are some mining groups out there that are stripping entire constellations. It doesn't seem EVE-like that I can't get at them. I'm more than willing to hop in a ship for some pvp or to hire mercs, but neither seems realistic. Am I missing something?


Adapt or die - move to Europe.


Australia would make it happen even sooner Blink

*edit: Or later, depends on if you go east or west to get there Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#18 - 2012-09-29 01:21:28 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Go out to nullsec

That seems to be the answer for everything nowadays, doesn't it? But it's really to be expected from someone who can't even attribute their own forum signature to a proper author.

OP: if it's a timezone thing, then you'll have to hire someone else to either go to war with them (despite Inferno, this is still viable to the last tiny shred of extent), or maybe bump-grief them out of the systems you like. This option has the positive side effects of creating more pvp opportunities in empire, and supporting the mercenary industry. You can also consider moving to more out-of-the-way areas, which are seldom populated. You'll need a freighter to move the minerals, probably.

Or you can just take the corpse's advice and pack all your crap into a hauler and take a trip to null, so the sheeple derpers who are too chicken-**** to die in groups of less than a hundred have something to hot-drop.


It's to be expected from someone new here with less than 1000 likes will try to hurt my feelings in GD Bear

I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings; I was simply pointing out the obvious. If you got a sad from my reply, then it's your fault for being so thin-skinned. Would explain that sickly blue hue, at least.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2012-09-29 01:27:40 UTC
Funny how, by the time the Euro TZ people come home, the belts have already been chewed on for 6 hours and yet how they apparently manage to be pristine up until that point…
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-09-29 01:37:56 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Go out to nullsec

That seems to be the answer for everything nowadays, doesn't it? But it's really to be expected from someone who can't even attribute their own forum signature to a proper author.

OP: if it's a timezone thing, then you'll have to hire someone else to either go to war with them (despite Inferno, this is still viable to the last tiny shred of extent), or maybe bump-grief them out of the systems you like. This option has the positive side effects of creating more pvp opportunities in empire, and supporting the mercenary industry. You can also consider moving to more out-of-the-way areas, which are seldom populated. You'll need a freighter to move the minerals, probably.

Or you can just take the corpse's advice and pack all your crap into a hauler and take a trip to null, so the sheeple derpers who are too chicken-**** to die in groups of less than a hundred have something to hot-drop.


It's to be expected from someone new here with less than 1000 likes will try to hurt my feelings in GD Bear

I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings; I was simply pointing out the obvious. If you got a sad from my reply, then it's your fault for being so thin-skinned. Would explain that sickly blue hue, at least.


You're definitely new here

Hai, I'm Surf Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

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