EVE General Discussion

PLEX prices out of control by whos definition? Who deems when PLEX prices are out of control?

They are subject to the same supply/demand rules as all other items ingame.

High sec mining bots.

Seriously theres hundreds of them.

You do NOT need a plex , the one you buy is the one that get's thrown back out.So the contract mechanic can make a purchase and sale of an identical item at one go.

It is the miner's fault.

Probably most come from summer vacation re subbed there alts and some people decited make quick isk by reselling plex and low income of new players and here you go. So in short demand>supply how it was repeated many times before. And as far i know miner and fw are least to they dont generate isk incursia ,missioning and wornholes (blue loot) does

This is simple, pexes are expensive becaue rich players in game accept traders rules, also inflation increase plex price, to easy acces to big incomes...

Come on we all know here average income per week like 1bil for old veterans who play a lot... in some cases people earn 0.5bil per day, even in few hours, for them here no problem to spent some isk for plex while for causuals and new player is big problem.

But in fact traders wont drop price... they greedy or just smat, and they know somone pay a lot...

Too many people with too much isk

But it was the legal purchase of Stacmon by the cartels that really threw the wood into the badger loft.

That's somewhat what i had in mind too. But than maybe the real cause is the ludicrous amount of isks those folks who are now buying items being sold by FW'ers had. I'm actually still amazed that the Winmatar items didn't totally crash on the market. Too many folks with way too many isks buying them ships.

This is an interesting take, though with the "buy now" at the end I highly suspect you're just a manip post in disguise.

It's only right if DUST players buy PLEX from CCP in less proportion than eve players, and since they're coming from a game with pay to win elements to EVE, they may be more likely to buy PLEX from CCP, driving costs down.




On the actual topic the hilariously broken state of FW & buffed semi-AFK mining definitely make people more able to afford PLEX. I'm going to leave the topic of whether highsec ISK making should be nerfed from a game balance standpoint aside since it's not relevant to the topic of PLEX, and I'm not discussing FW in this next paragraph because it's already being nerfed.

The one relevant thing to CCP here when it comes to their PLEX pricing from a purely financial perspective is that nerfing highsec ISK making would probably make some players not willing to pay for their subs, while some would just switch to cash subscriptions and keep on AFK mining. How much these income sources prop up the PLEX price, how many subs they would lose from people unable to afford PLEX from highsec ISK, and how many subs they would gain from players in other areas of the game due to cheaper PLEX are relevant to CCP's bottom line. I'd argue that since people outside of highsec have greater operating expenses than a highseccer from losing ships to PVP there's some reason to believe that you'd have more non-highsec accounts subbed if the PLEX price was lowered by nerfing highsec.

Basically, PLEXing is an operating cost some players consider a necessity, some necessary to have extra accounts, some something they just like. And since I believe non-highsec players generally have more additional operating cost from more ship losses, nerfing highsec to nerf plex prices may be a good idea.

I'm simplifying things of course because some highseccers PVP, some nullseccers just farm ISK constantly, some coalitions have reimbursement programs to reduce operating cost of ship losses, etc. But by in large I think generally, being in a dangerous no-rules PVP environment means you lose your ship (and the ISK you spent on that ship) more. From the experience I have in highsec (I do a decent amount of highsec trading on alts and haul stuff through there frequently. Hell, I used to run L4s.) if you are aware of the rules in highsec and don't make your ship an absurd loot pinata you are just about 100% safe from losing a ship to suicide ganks.

There's certainly the real life economy, but CCP can't really do anything about that.

Something that I haven't seen brought up in the thread is that the easiest passive income available to a player does seem to set the baseline on PLEX. Way back when a single PLEX used to be worth roughly full account's worth of datacore characters. With PI's release, it tended to hover around the profits of PI characters.