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Dev blog: New Eden Open $10.000 Tournament

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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-09-28 15:44:06 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:


A person may have multiple characters on the same team. A person MAY NOT have ANY characters in more than one team.


I want to see someone 8-boxing versus someone else 8-boxing

1v1 XTREME edition

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#42 - 2012-09-28 15:45:12 UTC
Do you pland doing the bid the winner thing with prizes like during AT X ?

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#43 - 2012-09-28 15:46:35 UTC
This is really exciting news; can't wait for this to start!

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#44 - 2012-09-28 15:48:03 UTC
so will this tournie happen after the winter patch or before it would be a shame if the new cruisers didn't get in aswell as the HML/missile rebalance?

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Randomize All
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-09-28 15:48:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Randomize All
*snip*

OwnedTV are about to be associated with a massive sham.


EDIT: Thats better. Rumour mongering isn't welcome on the forums thank you. Post sensibly in future - ISD Type40.
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-09-28 15:49:44 UTC
Eiluvial wrote:
Sorry but the entrance format is ****.

What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?

Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.

If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.

Thats kind of bad, isnt it.

I would like to encourage all the illegal RMT groups in EVE to attempt to launder their ISK in this manner. What a cunning plan! What could possibly go wrong?

Twisted

Private Citizen • CSM in recovery
Alara IonStorm
#47 - 2012-09-28 15:50:05 UTC
BC Tiers.

1. 11 Points
2. 13 Points
3. 12 Points

???
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-09-28 15:51:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Warde Guildencrantz
Alara IonStorm wrote:
BC Tiers.

1. 11 Points
2. 13 Points
3. 12 Points

???



3 = easy to kill, but high damage, usually more useful than tier 1 BC, but not as well rounded as tier 2. (12)
2 = good at everything, and high ewar ability (13)
1 = some of them suck, some of them are decent, but they are generally worse than tier 2 counterpart (11)

is this reasonable explanation?

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Alara IonStorm
#49 - 2012-09-28 15:53:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
BC Tiers.

1. 11 Points
2. 13 Points
3. 12 Points

???


3 = easy to kill, but high damage, usually more useful than tier 1 BC, but not as well rounded as tier 2. (12)
2 = good at everything (13)
1 = some of them suck, some of them are decent, but they are generally worse than tier 2 counterpart (11)

is this reasonable explanation?

Nope it isn't.

Fair bit of that is wrong.

Also Marauders = Battleship thing is weird.
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#50 - 2012-09-28 15:54:50 UTC
Eiluvial wrote:
Sorry but the entrance format is ****.

What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?

Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.

If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.

Thats kind of bad, isnt it.

CCP might, you know.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#51 - 2012-09-28 15:58:21 UTC
20 PLEX to even have a chance?

Whatever.

Alliance tournament 2.0.


I've already lost interest in how gameable this will be as soon as real life money hits the table.



Where I am.
Eiluvial
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-09-28 15:58:21 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Eiluvial wrote:
Sorry but the entrance format is ****.

What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?

Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.

If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.

Thats kind of bad, isnt it.

I would like to encourage all the illegal RMT groups in EVE to attempt to launder their ISK in this manner. What a cunning plan! What could possibly go wrong?

Twisted


Like lets assume a spot is on average 40 PLEX - my guess is that it will be lower, but if you look at ATX and how much those places went for(in the end almost all close to minimum) (hell the last spot didnt get sold because no one wanted it and devs had to do another auction) and compare to ATX prices (trillions of ISK worth of stuff - way better prices than this tournament) then at a PLEXprice of 550, thats only 704b.

Individuals in Goonswarm have that much. PL can buy out the tournament twice if they wanted to. Pretty sure the highest wallet was around 3t if i remember the statistic tweets correctly. (Dont quote me on this)

Isn't this just going to be another, more "elite" Alliance Tournament, where Alliances can legally enter more teams? At half the spots of ATX but without restriction to one team/alliance isn't this the exact opposite of ATX rules with Hydra being kicked out?

What if the final is going to be another ATIX final with an "A-Team" fighting against a "B-Team"?
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#53 - 2012-09-28 16:02:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
Eiluvial wrote:
Sorry but the entrance format is ****.

What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?

Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.

If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.

Thats kind of bad, isnt it.



This is still valid and has nothing to do with "RMT" business, it has to do with a Trillion ISK alliance buying all the slots in order to ensure they get 32 teams in

32 teams * 20 plex and auction up = 1T ISK. The CFC can easily buy almost all of the teams just based on the bidding alone. Even if PL buys half the teams, they have a better chance than anyone else of taking this.


Sorry, I dislike this whole idea as presented. This is for null sec alliances and Somer Blink.

Everyone else can **** off realistically.

Where I am.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#54 - 2012-09-28 16:03:29 UTC
Eiluvial wrote:
What if the final is going to be another ATIX final with an "A-Team" fighting against a "B-Team"?



Well, with it being real money, going direct to the real person, it's a trifle more difficult to get people to throw the game

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
#55 - 2012-09-28 16:05:08 UTC
Eiluvial wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Eiluvial wrote:
Sorry but the entrance format is ****.

What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?

Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.

If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.

Thats kind of bad, isnt it.

I would like to encourage all the illegal RMT groups in EVE to attempt to launder their ISK in this manner. What a cunning plan! What could possibly go wrong?

Twisted


Like lets assume a spot is on average 40 PLEX - my guess is that it will be lower, but if you look at ATX and how much those places went for(in the end almost all close to minimum) (hell the last spot didnt get sold because no one wanted it and devs had to do another auction) and compare to ATX prices (trillions of ISK worth of stuff - way better prices than this tournament) then at a PLEXprice of 550, thats only 704b.

Individuals in Goonswarm have that much. PL can buy out the tournament twice if they wanted to. Pretty sure the highest wallet was around 3t if i remember the statistic tweets correctly. (Dont quote me on this)

Isn't this just going to be another, more "elite" Alliance Tournament, where Alliances can legally enter more teams? At half the spots of ATX but without restriction to one team/alliance isn't this the exact opposite of ATX rules with Hydra being kicked out?

What if the final is going to be another ATIX final with an "A-Team" fighting against a "B-Team"?


I think you are looking at a hyper worst case scenario. While it is possible for a super rich alliance to attempt to buy every slot, it would not be cost effective for them to do so.

We are breaking new ground here with EVE tournaments and we will be analyzing every aspect of how teams are formed and how they participate in the event.
Tetsel
House Amamake
#56 - 2012-09-28 16:05:39 UTC
Damn will be away for this one... Sad
I hope Blue Lagoon hotel have a good internet connection to watch this live...

Loyal servent to Mother Amamake. @EVE_Tetsel

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#57 - 2012-09-28 16:05:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
32 Teams * 30 Plex average (just putting this out there) = 960 plex * $ 20 = $19,200 in PLEX for $10,000 in rewards.

Clueless.


480,000,000,000 (480 Billion ISK) minimum entry fee.

Where I am.
Aineko Macx
#58 - 2012-09-28 16:07:00 UTC
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#59 - 2012-09-28 16:08:48 UTC
I was looking for a winter feature devblogUgh

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#60 - 2012-09-28 16:08:56 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:


I think you are looking at a hyper worst case scenario. While it is possible for a super rich alliance to attempt to buy every slot, it would not be cost effective for them to do so.

We are breaking new ground here with EVE tournaments and we will be analyzing every aspect of how teams are formed and how they participate in the event.



Why isn't it cost effective? Even at 50% conversion rate from ISK to US$ that's better than 0 conversion rate.

I would take a trillion ISK and buy all the teams to make $10,000. Because if I can make a trillion, I can make a trillion more.

Where I am.