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Why aren't there Q ships?

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Vaer Grukker
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-09-28 11:40:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaer Grukker
Q ships might not have been the most successful ship ever used by navies, but I think they might have a place in the eve universe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship if you dont know what they are.

It would be cool to have a class of tech II industrial ships that were designed to look like a tech 1 industrial (until they engaged in combat or were actually scanned by a ship scanner).

The basic idea would be to have a module that when activated would hide all of your weapons until you baited some one into point range, then opened your ships hidden weapon ports, launched drones and took them out. Of course the ship would still fly like an indy, but it would sacrifice its cargo hold for more slots, better cap, better base tank and a drone bay.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#2 - 2012-09-28 11:45:24 UTC
I have thought about this a lot. To Features & Ideas!

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Bakanial Cadence
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-09-28 11:46:51 UTC
ship would be identifiable by name.

/thread
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#4 - 2012-09-28 12:33:04 UTC
First Google result

Second

Starting to get the idea?

Just to hammer the point home...

To clarify:
It's an idea which has seen innumerable threads, none of which have addressed all of the issues.

The real question is why you would want one?
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-09-28 13:22:30 UTC
Good Sirs;

And why don't they have Q-tips too?
If you don't know what they are they are for cleaning your ears and other things.

The store where you buy monocles and stuff could stock them.

your humble servent
SamDog
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#6 - 2012-09-28 14:01:30 UTC
I'm going to rename my battle sigil "Armed Smack"

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#7 - 2012-09-28 14:03:00 UTC
Bustard with a heavy escort

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Renier Gaden
Immortal Guides
#8 - 2012-09-28 14:38:43 UTC
How about this:

Concealed Turret Rig: Adds 4 concealed Turret hard points and increases the number of high slots by 4 (up to a maximum of 8) at the expense of 2,000 m3 cargo capacity.

Concealed Missile Rig: Adds 4 concealed Missile hard points and increases the number of high slots by 4 (up to a maximum of 8) at the expense of 2,000 m3 cargo capacity.

Oversized Aftermarket Systems Upgrade Rig: Increase to Powergrid, CPU, and Capacitor generation at the expense of 2,000 m3 cargo capacity.

Bodged Drone Bay Rig: Adds 50 m3 Drone Bay and 50 Mbit/Sec bandwidth at the expense of 2000 m3 cargo capacity.

Aftermarket Electronics Array Rig: Adds 2 Mid slots at the expense of 2000 m3 of cargo capacity.

Aftermarket Subsystems Array Rig: Adds 2 Low slots at the expense of 2000 m3 of cargo capacity.


There you go. Q-Ship that would have the same name as an Industrial, because you are using the original Industrial ship hull.

The Cargo capacity required to fit these rigs would prevent them from being fitted on a non industrial ship. The rig size would prevent it from being fitted on capital ships.

For the other rigs to be worth anything you would have to fit an Oversized Aftermarket Systems Upgrade Rig, so in combination with another rig any Q-Ship would have at least 4000m3 less cargo capacity than an unmodified Industrial. The cargo capacity bonus on the ships will allow skilled pilots to fit three of these Rigs.

The resulting Q-Ship would not be as good as a warship, but you might get some fights that you would not get in a warship.

Since this topic comes up a lot I thought I would take a crack at it. Am I missing any angle that might make these OP or something?
Tragedy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-09-28 14:39:32 UTC
This thread again. Go fit a battle badger.
Ginger Barbarella
#10 - 2012-09-28 14:47:36 UTC
Wow, so you mean having a BAIT ship with some offensive capability?!?!? Wow, that would just REVOLUTIONIZE EveO!!

Oh, wait...

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Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-09-28 14:51:23 UTC
we have q-ships... armed industrials and so one...

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Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-09-28 14:59:43 UTC
Hmmm you have not seen the new skiff yet huh?
Alara IonStorm
#13 - 2012-09-28 15:07:46 UTC
Why do people keep mentioning Industrials.

Q Ships were the RL equivalent of Shuttles with a single small frigate gun.

Your all thinking of Armed Merchant Men and Auxiliary Cruisers.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-09-28 15:16:57 UTC
[Skiff, PvP]
Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Small Proton Smartbomb II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


Infiltrator EV-600 x2
Hammerhead SD-600 x1
Valkyrie SW-600 x2


Q-ship.

Fly it in a fleet with one or two more like it, one or two packing 5 ECM drones, and the rest packing DPS drones and you're set. The only thing you can't do is scramble them, but if you neut. them enough and they're stupid enough to not fit an injector you might just keep them from warping out.
CCP Gargant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2012-09-28 15:29:31 UTC
Moved from Ships & Modules

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Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2012-09-28 15:41:26 UTC
Shereza wrote:
[Skiff, PvP]
Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Small Proton Smartbomb II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


Infiltrator EV-600 x2
Hammerhead SD-600 x1
Valkyrie SW-600 x2


Q-ship.

Fly it in a fleet with one or two more like it, one or two packing 5 ECM drones, and the rest packing DPS drones and you're set. The only thing you can't do is scramble them, but if you neut. them enough and they're stupid enough to not fit an injector you might just keep them from warping out.


lol, you're a master of fitting and game mechanics.