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TEST now renting Fountain access - effects on Serpentis faction/deadspace loot?

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Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#1 - 2012-09-26 15:35:15 UTC
As you may or may not be aware, there is now a legitimate offer to rent access to TEST Alliance's space in Fountain. There are, of course, still people doing rental scams, both inside and outside the alliance, but provided folks take all the necessary precautions, they can now gain positive standings and access to TEST's Fountain systems.

That said, how do you think this will affect the market? My guess is the following will occur:

Naga price up - Nagas are one of the most profitable ships to rat in Fountain with. This is likely to cascade to Caldari Navy antimatter prices as well, and perhaps Fed Navy (but most people don't even realize they're the same ammo as Cal Navy).

Vindicator/BPC price down - This is a little more speculative, as this primarily drops in complexes that may not be much more farmed than they are currently.

Corelum A-type loot down - the most profitable sites to run in a Naga are Forsaken Hubs, and these can escalate to 6/10s - which in turn drop cruiser-level A-type loot.



Any other ideas offhand?

Interested Party (TM)

Ji Sama
Akira Industries
#2 - 2012-09-26 17:33:26 UTC
o/

I would rent....
TEST is the BEST!
Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#3 - 2012-09-26 19:27:00 UTC
Ji Sama wrote:
o/

I would rent....
TEST is the BEST!


TEST ALLIANCE BEST ALLIANCE indeed. If you really want to, I can get you in touch with the right people. Right now it's a corp-level joining only, though we might be doing individual renters at some point: you can read the news post here.

But that's not what this post is about, Ji :P I want to know how this will affect my fellow marketeers if it gets off the ground and we suddenly have an influx of ratters abusing Fountain. I've put forth my guesses (simplistic as they are), any thoughts on your end?

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Ji Sama
Akira Industries
#4 - 2012-09-26 20:10:24 UTC
Personally I think it would be a good thing, to utilize the dead 0.0 systems some more. And get some ratters going.
It will raise prices on a lot of things, and we like that..
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#5 - 2012-09-27 13:56:23 UTC
I rent out C6 WH's as well....

(Oh wait)

Wormholes have the best accoustics. It's known. - Sing it for me -

Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#6 - 2012-09-27 15:04:42 UTC
Archdaimon wrote:
I rent out C6 WH's as well....

(Oh wait)


I'm not quite sure I follow. If you have power projection enough to control a C6 wormholes, I don't see why you couldn't rent it - though most folks who can profit from C6 holes are also powerful enough that they don't need to rent. That's clearly a different scenario from Fountain, where we can invite people who aren't terribly good at this game to rat in our space and we both profit from the arrangement.

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Leah Hun
Pannon Phoenix
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2012-09-28 11:01:24 UTC
Re: Re: We are scammed?
From: leetcheese
Sent: 2012.07.21 21:13
To: Leah Hun,

yep

Re: Re: We are scammed?
From: Leah Hun
Sent: 2012.07.20 08:57
To: leetcheese


So all member from Test can free scaming without any reason, that's amazing.
Re: We are scammed?
From: leetcheese
Sent: 2012.07.20 03:03
To: Leah Hun,

yeah you were scammed.

We are scammed?
From: Leah Hun
Sent: 2012.07.19 09:16
To: leetcheese, Viktor Villiance, Walter Stine,

Re: Re: Fountain Available for Rent
From: Bruceleeng
Sent: 2012.07.18 19:29
To: Leah Hun,

Hi Leah,

C1XD-X is available.

Yes, the price is 2.030 Bil. Sadly you cannot pay for half a month. The payment will be made on the same day every month. For example, if you pay today, the next payment will be 18th of August.

Let me detail the steps that we will have to go thru together in order to set you up smoothly in your new home:

1.You will have to send me the first month deposit (2,030,000,00 isk) with the reason -Rent C1XD-X-

2. After the deposit has been made, you will have to give me 24 hours to notify all our Fountain residents to set blue standings with your corporation and let people know that the system is rented. I will notify you when all standings have been set. It ussually takes less then 24 hours.

3. At this point you will have to set blue standings with the alliances and corporations from the list I will be sending you after step 2.

4. After standings are confirmed from your side, I will give you access to our intel channels and then you can safely move into C1XD-X.

If you have any questions or needs, please let me know.


Best regards,
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#8 - 2012-09-28 11:14:37 UTC
How does that go...TEST ALLIANCE PLEASE IGNORE, well this rental business can only lead to massive scams and ransoms, no way jose post IGNORED. Disclaimer>>>(Posting does not refect on personal feelings of Test Alliance).
Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#9 - 2012-09-28 13:28:48 UTC
As Leah is helpfully pointing out, we have not been able to prevent people from choosing to rental scam, which further complicates matters. I've attempted, in her case, to ameliorate matters, but the official ruling was "If you don't follow the rules, it's not our fault if you get scammed".

So anybody who -is- interested in renting, please make yourself aware of official rental policy - all TEST announcements are found on forum.pleaseignore.com and that portion of the forum should be publically accessible.

Interested Party (TM)

flakeys
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-09-28 13:33:42 UTC
Dethmourne Silvermane wrote:
As Leah is helpfully pointing out, we have not been able to prevent people from choosing to rental scam, which further complicates matters. .



Complications are a result of free scamming politics , quite simple so i wouldn't call it a complication as it is TEST's own choice to endorse it.

Now if the people falling for the scams are idiots is a totally different thing i'll add that Blink.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#11 - 2012-09-28 13:37:18 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Dethmourne Silvermane wrote:
As Leah is helpfully pointing out, we have not been able to prevent people from choosing to rental scam, which further complicates matters. .



Complications are a result of free scamming politics , quite simple so i wouldn't call it a complication as it is TEST's own choice to endorse it.

Now if the people falling for the scams are idiots is a totally different thing i'll add that Blink.


I like to think that if you read our official messaging (which is easily found and which our diplomats reference often) you'd never get successfully scammed by anybody in our alliance except perhaps recruitment scam, which isn't allowed in Dreddit (but is a corp-by-corp policy on whether to allow it). I can't help it that people can't read and then expect to not have any lasting consequences Blink

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Leah Hun
Pannon Phoenix
Pandemic Legion
#12 - 2012-09-28 23:02:53 UTC
They make every day new topic, first read a last few days topics. After that you will see the true.Shocked

Choose other Renters my friend, much correct one
Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#13 - 2012-09-28 23:39:40 UTC
This topic isn't even supposed to be about the renting, it's supposed to be about the market. Quit trying to derail it.

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Disturbed Drake
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-09-29 09:04:19 UTC
No trust to TEST!