Ships & Modules

When fitting an Indy (lets say, a mammoth) for maximum gtfo would you go for nano internal structure or inertial stabilizers? I know the i-stabs will bloom the sig, making locks that much easier but it is an Indy so the sig is no Jessica Biel to begin with. I guess my question is: Will the lowwer inertial multiplier & slightly better acceleration of the nano's be worth it when its time to split?

I would go with the i-stabs. Although increase your sig, it also makes you reach the 75% max speed faster to start warping.

If you are thinking about several jumps in afk mode (not recommended at all), I would go with the nanos as they increase your max speed and you travel faster to the outgoing gate once you land 15km away of it.

maybe that will help you with your question regarding i-stabs:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Acceleration

What about a viator?

I'm glad I could be helpful, the tv= equation is quite simple, dont forget V/Vmax is 0.75....good luck... ;-)

Tl;Dr: i-stabs ftw

MATHS: so, correct me if I'm wrong on any of this but the way the equation ends up working is that your inertial modifier is the raw percentage of your modified mass. To obtain seconds to warp you convert from tons to kg (move the decimal to the right 3 digits) then multiply that by 10^-6 (move the demcimal back to the left 6 digits) and then multiply that by 1.3863 (this is a constant obtained as -ln0.25).

What this means in English: If your mass is 12,500 tons > 12,500,000 kg > 12.5 modified mass. If your inertial modifier is 0.799 (base mass & modifier for the mammoth). Now we multiply 79.9% (inertial modifier as a %) of the modified mass by our constant to obtain seconds to warp. The equation is as follows:

12.5 x 0.799 x 1.3863 = 13.8 seconds to warp from a stand still.

Pretty simple right? So, back to my original question: nano's or i-stabs?
As it turns out either mod will increase your modified mass by an insignificant amount (.001 for nano's, .002 for stabs) so we can disregard that bit of info. Anything that increases your base velocity is a moot point. In EVE's system of fluid state physics acceleration is a factor of max velocity. So we can also disregard this info. Although there are many mods that increase mass by a significant amout there are none that decrease it AFAIK. That leaves us with only one module attribute to consider: inertial modifier bonus. Under this logic we must assume that inertial stabilizers, with their extra 4.2% bonus, are the best way to decrease alignment time. One i-stab II will decrease the align time of a mammoth by roughly 2.8 sec where as one nano II will only reduce the align time of that same mammoth by roughly 2.2 sec. With an average lock time of...lets say 5sec...(dessi time) that means that 2 i-stabs and a low friction nozzle rig will get your Indy off the gate before the campers can lock you down whereas 2 nano's and the same rig won't quite do the trick, assuming they have pre-heated the point. Pro tip: if a pirate doesn't pre-heat their point, they are stupid.

I would like to thank Herc K for the handy link. +1 bro. If I had bothered to use google I could've posted a guide instead of a question.

If you want to offer up the maths concerning sig radius v sensor strength and lock time as well as the most commonly used ships in 0.0 barrier or low sec gate camps then I will gladly crunch the #'s and we can find out if the 22% sig bloom of a pair of i-stab II loses it's potential GTFO to a fast locking whatever. However, my prediction is that the sig radius of an Indy hauler is already so large that the results may be insignificant. On the other hand, if I am wrong I will gladly edit my results from the previous wall of text.

Well, since you brought up the mwd let me refer to my wall o' text from before. Just in case you only got as far as tldr. The base align time of the mammoth was 13.8 sec and two stabs brings that down to 8.2 sec. The mwd's base duration is 10 sec which puts you well within the mwd-cloak-warp trick range. Likewise the 2 nano's will give you an align time of 9.4 sec. Cutting it close there but it will still do the trick. That said, it would seem that this entire thread can be deemed useless. My fail thread is fail & all of you fail posters are fail for posting in it. My bad guys.

Tl;Dr: fail thread is fail. If you know what you are doing then you can fit either way...just not for max cargo

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i use nanos for my prowler, but Istabs for my orca.

frankly if the ship have a booming sig in the first place (like the orca) then you're better off with i-stabs-