Ships & Modules

Lets start with saying that I know the risks.


Basically, I want to get a covert ops frigate to a system which I'm not friendly with the locals, but its pretty empty.
Using the frigate, when the system is empty, I want to use a covert-cyno and jump in a black-ops BS+T3 covert-ops+nullifier group to a safe location (nothing is really safe).

Than we can roam around, do anomalities, ratting and crap, and when we are done, use another covert ops frigate at another system (more friendly), open a covert-cyno, and jump everyone out with the BS before someone catchs us.

Because of the covert-ops ability, the BS and frigate can be relatively safe (cloacked at a safe spot so can't be scanned or logged off until ready to get out, but nothing is ever safe), and the T3s are stealth bustards. If they die, its their own damn fault.
The black-ops BS can act as a base of operations (of sorts).
If being taken notice too much, everyone will jump to the BS area stealthed, quick covert jump when ready, and we are gone.

We have a small base of operations in low-sec not far from an alliance space in the south (or was it east? I always get north and west confused...), and we want some exploration and fun in null without having to worry about null gate camps too much.
I know at some point we will get blobed and lose everything. But it will still be fun (as long as we don't die on the first try...).


So I need to know since I never tried it, and before we spend the ISK,skill time and start experimenting:
Do the covert-ops modules of the T3s allow them to be jumped with the black-ops BS?
Do covert-cyno also blink in the sky like a beacon like their normal cyno cosins, or its as it says, its fully un-detected (except being scanned by probes for the ship running it)?
Can I activate the covert cyno generator in high sec (which I think I can't not because the normal one also doesn't allow it, but I just want to confirm)?

(And I know Its an alt. Hell, would you post that on your main? :P)
Thanks in advance :)

usehttp://evemaps.dotlan.net/ to plan your trip and how much you can send.

Also worth noting a black ops roughly will only be able to send 3 T3's
or 4 recons
or a short buss full of stealth bombers(like 30 ish)


if you jump and send stuff (full load) one of the things you send will have to be a cloakie t2 hauler or you will not have the fuel to return.

at max skills your jump range is only 5 light years(MAX SKILLS LIKE 45 DAYS TO GET TO MAX)



you can cov cyno in to a jammed system, and because of that fact.........


BE FOR WARNED almost all null sec entity's will view black ops drops as a PVP attack expect consitrable heat should any one who lives there scan your BLACK OPS bs.

Get a fuel truck like a Viator or a Crane. This is non-negotiable. You'll have SO MUCH MORE FUEL that way. Really.

Then, maybe, think about what you're going to do.

From what I understood, you want to PVE safely ? If so, where ? Lowsec or nullsec ?

use the link i put up you can set it to tell you the exact amount you can send.
also your better off scanning a WH and taking it till it has an out hole in null.

Yes, but you can only jump out of hisec, not into it. That means you would have to take a route like this: Hisec --> Null (assuming you can even reach where you want to go in one jump) --> Lowsec --> Hisec (via gate).

That's quite a load of ISK on the line, and the cargo capacity is limited, so unless there is a SEVERE shortage of something (that the alliances who seed null markets haven't taken care of), and assuming you can get into the station in question to dock/check market, then you're still putting a billion isk ship on the line for a task you could complete with a T1 industrial, covops frigate, and a little patience.

Anyone on the same grid as the covert cyno generator can see the covert cyno on overview, unlike a regular cyno where everybody in the system can see it.

To reduce the fuel problem, you should base yourself out of lowsec initially. Try Aridia or Devoid, no one lives there. Cart in and/or mine enough ice locally (if you have a Redeemer ofc; otherwise try Solitude trololol) and anchor a can at a deepsafe in a system, off scan. Fill can with isotopes.

Fly your cyno covops out to a relatively unused destination in nullsec, set an off-grid deepsafe. Light cyno. Jump a cloaky hauler to your desto in nullsec, with a can. Anchor can. Fill can with isotopes. Bridge in your T3's, jump BLOPs into system, send the hauler alt home, begin the ISKening.

ProTip: Always keep your blops cloaked!
ProTip: Cloaky Tengu is best for the T3's, for ratting. If you RR fit it, you should be able to tackle 8/10's with 3 or 4 of them, no wuckers. Fat ISK.
ProTip: Practise, practise, practise the bridging before the real deal.

You cannot probe a can.

LOLOL who can use d-scan out in nullsec? The people you get with BLOPs are the people who simply look at Local as a guide to docking up/safeing up.

I too have been bored.

Usually its when I'm out wandering, and suddenly see a container flicker on Overview midwarp. I almost find myself compelled to try and track it down, if only to drop another that says "Haha I found you!"

=)