Assembly Hall

We are in terrible need of changes. Well, we always are, but right now I'm seeing these.

Corporation Management skills
Trade skills
Social skills
Subsystem skills (see below)
Planet Management skills
Learning Implants (see below)

To address the problems as we did with the Learning skills by readjusting everyone's base attributes up, I propose the following:

Emulate Trade skills at LV5. Contracts should be made limitless, and buying and selling should be possible from across the universe instead of being region-restricted. Being able to access station services across the galaxy for items you own would be great too (say you wanna recycle all your garbage and sell it somewhere 50 jumps away instead of having to have to go back to that region).

Same with Social, emulate all skills at 5. No sensible person likes grinding and skill training is slow enough without players having to train just to optimize standing gains with NPC's and such.

Planet Management, as above, LV5. And on a side-note - please make an auto-repeat function with an option to send notifications about the production yields so players don't have to manually access each planet to check on them and renew the cycles. Do-able by scripting a simple function that resets a cycle based on where the player sets it (reset every 1 hour, 2 hour, 3 hour and so on.)

Subsystems - I'm not a Strategic Cruiser pilot so this is going to earn me some rage but this is merely an alternative I've been thinking about. Take the Subsystem skills and roll them into their parent T3 Cruiser skills and then adjust the parent T3 Cruiser skill multipliers to reflect the change (currently they're 5x so maybe 6x). Yay or nay?

Biggest issue - please revert all of nullsec back to 0.0 instead of this new negative level system. It did nothing but cripple PvE for us carebears and render quite many systems frankly worthless to live in. Reduced minerals means reduced materials, reduced materials means reduced PvP. If you cripple the miners, you cripple the fighters by default (where do you think they're gonna get everything from?).

There's an other issue that I've been raging at. Cloaks. There's no way to counter cloaks the same way you counter any other fleets in a tactical way. Cloaked ships, covert or not, are completely outside of EVE's tactical rock-paper-scissors and this invites people to permacamp enemy systems with cloaked ships just to discourage undocking (and you never know if they're AFK or just trolling because they will find you in a Sanctum soon after). There needs to be a way to break enemy cloaks, but at a proportionate cost versus the training to use cloaks.

Something like an Echelon, but a big fat slow 1-slot ship that equips an anti-cloaking module that breaks all cloaks within 100-ish km (friendlies included) and DISABLES cloaks for... 10 seconds? Penalties equal to firing a Doomsday Device (sitting duck, so the anti-cloak won't be spammable, and another AC cannot activate within 5 minutes of the first one)

Over to Learning Implants (not combat implants). This was already posted in another topic but there can never be enough spam for change. They're too expensive, they're a drain on your wallets to replace and they discourage newcomers. Do away with them, attributes and remapping altogether. Skill training should default to as if players had 25 already.

Actually the above gave me another idea. If players have an active account (must not be Trial or cancelled with time left, have an actual subscription going) and they don't train anything, the time wasted should rack up points anyway and be available for spending. That way people don't lose training time, but at the same time it doesn't train them faster (if you idled for an hour you'd only gain 2100-ish points assuming 24 in all attributes). It only makes sense since I doubt CCP can handle the alternative method of allowing people to queue skills up endlessly (that is, do away with the 24-hour start restriction), and this way players will be able to come back to their still-subscribed account and catch up to everyone else.

Read it again. Why train skills just to increase the number of players you're allowed to recruit into your corporation?

What the ****?!?!?!

really, i don't think EvE is for you mate, you know what? im a CEO, and even I am against taking away the corp management skills, basically means if you WANT to elad a corp, you have to be WILLING to invest your time and isk into that proffession and live with it, tying up your skillpoints is part of leading a corp, and should not be removed, all it would do is inspire tons of half-assed CEO's to start their own corps and then barely even work in them.

i think what im trying to say is, quit trying to simplify EvE to suit your laziness and/or ADD, eve is supposed to be ahrder not easier, im still mad they took the bulldozer off the top of the cliff.

Who said anything about not investing time and ISK into it? And since you're going to be such an "if it's easy it sucks" scrub about it, go troll in another topic.



If I wanted the complete removal of skill training, I would have written it in my original post, wouldn't I? *puts a torch to your strawman*

I'm not saying "remove skill training". I'm saying "remove unnecessary skills". I don't see the logic in having to train a skill to expand a corp's member count, the same way I wouldn't see someone try to capitalize on some sort of talent at cramming crowds into a soccer stadium IRL. It won't impact veterans and it will make EVE look more presentable to newcomers who have never touched an MMO before, and it only makes sense to make accommodations that will attract more players who eventually become subscribers (within reason, we don't wanna mess with the core gameplay).

Where's the end though. My point is that the list of skills you want to remove is completely arbitrary, I wasn't trying to say that you thought all skills should be removed, I was trying to show that there's no limit to where you stop removing skills to remove the inconvenience of training them.

And, yes, there are people who do specialize and make their living IRL based on their ability to design buildings to fit lots of people efficiently, they're called architects. There are also people who make their living off of getting people into said buildings and keeping them happy and entertained while they're there.

Furthermore, noobs SHOULDN'T be looking to start a corp. Leave starting corps to the more experienced players who know what they're doing, noobs starting corps just leads to them coming on the forums complaining about being wardeced by older players and saying there's nothing they can do about it.

Ka-bump so CCP will find this and take my proposal into consideration.

fix'd

The reason for this is to prevent n00bs from starting corps without even knowing game mechanics. by forcing them to train it will force them to learn game mechanics before they come on the forums with tears of why is my corp no good ect ect.

You did actually. Read your OP again.

Trading itself is a isk making profession. Amoung the highest. Would order number be limitless?

This would end the need of having alts, or training them.