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Well missiles are getting nerfed... so honestly thats a tradeoff to that I suppose (plus they're normally not as good at pvp compared to turrents)


And projectiles are forced (almost exclusively) to fight into falloff, losing a respectable amount of DPS while doing so.


I think the weapon systems as a whole are fine, nobody here wants all the races to have the same weapons with different models anyway.

Ammar = Great DPS out to medium range with short range weapons.

= Boost projectile damage whine.

Gallente = Best DPS in the game by far.


Neither Mimitar nor the caldari can compete with the ammar or Gallente at certain aspects.


This is fair and balanced.

That's madness, if you fly minmatar you use tech 2 ammo, emp is rare. Tech 2 ammo is amazing, sure faction ammo can fill this role, but really missles are the king of damage control.

However a good ammar pilot also has the ability to change lens as he closes range. We built this into our top down eve offline shooter.. oh man what happened to that project...

To answer your questions, as things are right now, no, lasers should not get more damage, blasters should not get more range, this because it would not solve anything, in my eyes it would only digitalize combat even further in the form of rock paper scissors.
You would only make those who are already vulnerable to these weapon systems more vulnerable to them, and make hardly any difference versus the ones you struggle with, who in many cases directly counter your damage types. These weapon systems have underlying basic flaws which need to be looked at first.

With that said, my counterproposal
I'd love it if both hybrids and lasers had a kind of omni damage type pattern.

With this below change would of course come the long awaited re-re-balancing of blasters to where they should be on the damage scale, as in reduce their damage to somewhere closer to awesome, thus no longer be situated above "holy ****, this is sick!" and be referred to as packing a can of "Where did his ship go?".

Hybrid: 30% Therm, 25% Kin, 25% Exp, 20% EM
Laser: 35% EM, 30% Therm, 25% Exp, 10% Kin

Or similar, I have proposed this in other threads before, but I feel I have to keep spamming it to get any kind of spotlight for it.
It would reduce the importance of selectable damage types, also reduce the possible absolute counters out there when looking at extreme resistances on some ships, for instance Minmatar T2 EM resists vs. Lasers.
Noting that this might be a good thing, it is not a solution for Gallente having slow ships and blasters intended as short range weapons.

I'd be fine if they added some special properties for hybrids and lasers, and keep projectiles/missiles as the "norm", for instance, it could be an interesting counter to virtually permanent tanks:

New skill introduced, "Laser special mechanics"
2-10% of laser damage on shield to always penetrate through shield.
New skill introduced, "Hybrid armour integrity bypass"
2-10% of hybrid damage on armour to always penetrate through armour.
You want to shield tank this, but would give viable use for structure repairers as well.
New skill introduced, "Projectile damage focusing ".
2-10% increase in projectile damage against armour.
New skill introduced, "Missile shield interference patterns"
2-10% increase in missile damage against shields.

This would also give more room for double tanked platforms and mixed weapon systems, I just wish they'd junk the strict weapon systems on ships and allow us to choose more freely on what weapon systems we prefer if this were to go through.
This would also further the possibility to give blasters longer range(at the cost of damage), since the weapons have more specific uses and blaster role could be altered somewhat. But, in my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the blaster role, only the ships and fits used, when the above and below suggestions would be applied that is.

Also I'd be fine if hybrids and lasers could fire at 0 capacitor, yet with reduced effect of course:
Allow Lasers to fire when at 0 Cap, but incur a 300% increase in cycle time, a kind of cap siphoning wind-up time.
Allow Hybrids to fire when at 0 Cap, but incur a -90% optimal penalty and 25% damage penalty, thus using it very inefficiently but not so devastating for neuted blaster brawlers.

Note: All numbers are pretty much place holders.

it's ironic that you bitched about me for supposedly not reading, then demonstrated that you failed to read my post

tldr; well majority of caldari missile platforms can choose dmg type, but they get 25% kinetic dmg bonus, so it has its tradoffs, il agree this is not the case of every ship. but i guess u forgot about this.

kinetic specific bonus is going away, being replaced by a general ROF bonus that is equivalent (as part of the ship rebalancing)

This thread, lol. I'm also omni-trained... Guns are fine as is for the most part. Arties need some work to make them viable vs AC's. The only problem with lasers really is; A) Can't do explosive damage and B) Can only fit Tachyon's on maybe 3 ships. Hybrids are pretty good right now imo. Not to mention they can do Kinetic/Thermal damage, which I guess some of you have completely forgotten that EVERYTHING is weak to one or both. As either a primary or secondary weakness.