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Critiques on Eve (awesome game with a couple flaws)
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Sturmwolke
#21 - 2012-09-23 20:10:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Sturmwolke
Destriouth Hollow wrote:
-snip-

1. It'll get fixed.
2. Loophole in mechanics. Be thankful they're still allowing this metagame.
3. The contract filter's fairly powerful (with undocumented wildcard search) even if it lacks those details. Problem is, there is no user manual (typical CCP style).
4. It's a convoluted mess, I agree.
5. That's been requested for YEARS. No one at CCP is listening.
6. Insignificant.
7. Bug report it.
8. It's archaic, but it serves a purpose. NPC standings should not be taken for granted if you live in empire space. What you described is a shortcut/loophole. See 2.
9. Minor quibbles. The drone bunny should already know what to do when they see drones doing nothing.
10. Not an issue per se. The asymmetry is part of the charm that drives gameplay.
11. See 10.
12. That mashwork of names was flawed from the start.
13. So? You're in null. It's not Hello Kitty Land. Put in place your own counters or move back to empire space if you cba to do it.
14.-15. No comment. I don't use it that much.

2.1-2.3 Post in the F&I forum. If you're extremely lucky, it might get noticed. If not, it'll die like the rest of the bad ideas in there.
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#22 - 2012-09-23 20:37:33 UTC
Destriouth Hollow wrote:
Shows you didn't even bother to read.


Osht sun, you're meant to read things before posting?

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#23 - 2012-09-23 20:54:33 UTC
Destriouth Hollow wrote:

13. Cloakies are untouchable

Poasting in stealth nerf afk cloakies thread, 8/10 for effort but 2/10 for originality.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#24 - 2012-09-23 20:55:42 UTC
anything to allow easier designing of corp structures at the corp level needs mentioned more often. To few people mess with it and its to convoluted to use the alliance structures. Wallet divisions is good. On wallet roles we need to design and define access like a relational database. One to on, one to many, many to one instead of a flat one to many, open or closed. same idea could be used on material access I guess.
Veronica Kerrigan
Surgically Constructed L Feminist
#25 - 2012-09-23 20:58:48 UTC
I have just a few things that I don't agree with, but on the whole these are fairly valid. One, webbing a freighter is a side effect of how PvP work, eg. not webbing something before it is pointed, and therefore won't be changed, because it would break a bunch of other stuff. The second is the nomenclature. I love how not everything has the same damn name. I'm one of those people who doesn't like the missile name changes because you know what, I want my sci-fi to sound sci-fi. I want things to have names that make everything sound way cooler than it is, and I don't want everything to sound the same.
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#26 - 2012-09-23 21:01:21 UTC
Veronica Kerrigan wrote:
I have just a few things that I don't agree with, but on the whole these are fairly valid. One, webbing a freighter is a side effect of how PvP work, eg. not webbing something before it is pointed, and therefore won't be changed, because it would break a bunch of other stuff. The second is the nomenclature. I love how not everything has the same damn name. I'm one of those people who doesn't like the missile name changes because you know what, I want my sci-fi to sound sci-fi. I want things to have names that make everything sound way cooler than it is, and I don't want everything to sound the same.

Someone drew up plans of having a meta level icon in the corner of the module icon, similar to the current system for T2/faction/etc - give us this and they can change the names to chinese for all I care.
Titus Black
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-09-23 23:27:24 UTC
I would personally like to see the starting SP more like it used to be, with a reasonable spread of starting skills for combat/industry/mining respectively for race/choice.

Its not much but it makes a massive difference for new players breaking that starting barrier. It is hardly going to revolutionise the game and would perhaps get a bit more playerbase growth and allow people starting to see more than just l1+2 missions.

INB4 im burned at the stake for "wanting EVE easier"
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-09-24 01:31:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Karn Dulake
Posting in a nerf Titans thread


(nothing you posted was new but its adorable that you think it is)
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords
#29 - 2012-09-24 16:22:31 UTC
I don't know if its new or not and I don't really care either.
It's just a compact list of things that annoyed me over the last 2 months.
There are many people requesting useless stuff , but I hope that my points are mostly things that people agree with.

it's obvious that many people came accross things i mentioned as they are general things a lot of people come in contact with. If it would be something just I myself care about, I would NOT post it.

I hope there was no list of usefull improvements like that before. If there was, please post me the link.
It would be nice if CCP fixed some tthings and I tried to list all of those in my knowledge.
-> to make EVE a better place for everybody (:

regards
Destriouth Hollow
Doddy
Excidium.
#30 - 2012-09-24 16:39:47 UTC
This is the wrong forum dude, try features and ideas, you only get trolled here.

Alot of what you discuss is corp management related which has always been broken, ccp are gonna fix it one day, don't hold your breath.

For the others stuff faction drones to market is just something that got missed when faction stuff in general was moved onto market.

Webbing freighters is working as intended (webbing anything in fact).

Contract stuff fair point.

Stopping training when changing implants or jumpcloning is completely needed if you don't want to make a horrid mess. I guess you could have it do it automagically (stop, change start) but that just makes it a more complex task. Its hardly all the time anyway given you hardly ever change implants can jc max once every 24hrs.

Set destination thing - didn't even know you could do that, why would you?

The corp standing thing is working as intended and fine, it is the corp setting up the pos, the corp needs the standing.

Drone assist - always works for me, maybe you have them set passive?

Meta 4 vs t2 - need slooked at, it used to be that the meta 4 were all expensive so it was fair enough but with the current prices they do need looked at agin. CCP recently did it for armour plates for example.

Sentry drone spec - agreed, but people will cry if ccp increase training time

naming convention - personal thing i guess, it made far more sense when modules from different racial backgrounds didn't share names .....

cloaky - working as intended, works well.

compare tool def needs refining

Navy domi - fine as it is, its a beast.

salvager - autoloot would break the salvaging mini profession and just adds afkness - bad.
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#31 - 2012-09-24 16:56:21 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
I read the whole thing and I'm sorry but it comes off as a 5979 character rant similar to some nerd essay listing the various plot holes in the Star Wars series in alphabetical order. The whole time I was reading it I couldn't help but hear this guy narrating it in my head.



If you read tone and pitch into the post then thats on you not him. The only way to make the game better is to bring out the flaws not just live with them. One thing for certain his post was more constructive than the TROLLS response.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-09-24 17:15:28 UTC
I agree with this one. There should be a better way.

3. Showing Research Level in the Contracts
While looking for BPOs and BPCs in the contracts you can't filter by material level or even see it on the first glance. If you are looking for a researched BP your only choice is opening the info of all 5-15 only to find out that all of them have Level 0 Material + Level 0 Time. I looked at arround 150 BPs and I have jet to find the second one with research done (: Really annoying. I will now research all blueprints myself as this is much less work than searching these contracts.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#33 - 2012-09-24 17:44:27 UTC

The only thing that matters is the new physics collision stuff they're claiming to be working on :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k7oaz8mWug

Where I am.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#34 - 2012-09-24 17:55:11 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:

The only thing that matters is the new physics collision stuff they're claiming to be working on :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k7oaz8mWug


See you (and^that) in 10 years.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#35 - 2012-09-24 18:17:15 UTC
2. Webbing doesn't make anything jump faster. It does, however, lower your top speed, and if you've already achieved enough speed in the correct direction, you will *warp* sooner than normal when webs get applied. But, if you web a freighter that is standing still, it will still take it forever to align from 0m/s to warp.

5. Why are you trying to hide your isk from yourself? Put it in a corp wallet, alt char like you said, or invest in one of Eve's fine player-run banking establishments.

10. Some T2 items are worse than meta 4, some better. It keeps you on your toes.

12. The naming gurus are working on this now.

13. Cloaks working as intended. Cloaky alts are only a threat if you're afraid of the dark. Be not afraid.

The rest of your points are pretty fair.

Oh, and use that extra mid slot on your Navy Domi for an omni-directional drone tracking module. They make sentry drones much better.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#36 - 2012-09-24 19:05:37 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Look at this fake noob.


This

- Add meta gaming to your list.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#37 - 2012-09-24 19:14:44 UTC
Quote:
13. Cloakies are untouchable
Luckily I have jet to find somebody who abuses this but: If you have an alt-char that you don't really need you can cloak it in a system forever. There is nothing to do about it. You can have a mining corp with 80 players and 30 battleships in the system. It won't help. He can stick arround in that system for as many months as he wants. If i would be a **** and have enough cloaky-alts i could put one in every system of an alliance i don't like and none of their pve-ships or mining-ships would ever be save. For as long as I want! Nothing they can do about it.


Of course they would be safe. People that actually know how to use the intel tools of eve don't complain about cloakies much TBH. They let you think you have the 1-up on them and then kill you when the time is right.

Other than that, decent list, and I think you forgot that POS''s and POS mods are configured for alliance use but do not allow it. This is a huge bug for Wspace dwellers.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords
#38 - 2012-09-29 22:42:13 UTC
Yes you are totally right. I forgot this one. After all this is the only reason we have our own POS with 5 people -> Because we can't just use our Alliances POS while keeping our own Corp intact.
This really sucks (:

*added* as Point 16
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