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Critiques on Eve (awesome game with a couple flaws)

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Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords
#1 - 2012-09-23 15:32:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Destriouth Hollow
Eve is an awesome game and for the the most complex and interesting thing I have ever played. Yet occasionally i find flaws or conviniencies that annoy me. Here I will post those whenever they come up:

1. Faction Drones in market
Faction Drones are only available via contracts and not via market.
2.Webifying allied Freighters
Webifying allied Freighters makes them jump faster.
3. Showing Research Level in the Contracts
While looking for BPOs and BPCs in the contracts you can't filter by material level or even see it on the first glance. If you are looking for a researched BP your only choice is opening the info of all 5-15 only to find out that all of them have Level 0 Material + Level 0 Time. I looked at arround 150 BPs and I have jet to find the second one with research done (: Really annoying. I will now research all blueprints myself as this is much less work than searching these contracts.
4.Corporation Roles not properly explained
Corporation Roles are very complicated and are nowhere explained compactly. This information should be INGAME. I can't even get the task done to give my corp members access to my laboratories unless I give each one "Director"
5.Divisions on characters
I like to have some ISK and assets seperated because it's either loaned, I want to save it or I don't want to think about it anymore because it's my "savety". I would like divisions in my char for that. Currently i give all my savings to an alt, because I don't see any other way.
6.Stopping and restarting skills all the time
Having to stop your skills each time you want to use a jumpclone or an implant is really unnesesary.
7. Destination-Tool not fully usable
If you set a destination you can do each jump/dock by rightclicking on the small rectangle on the top left of your screen. This works for all jumps BUT the last one. If you are one system before the system where u want to go it does not show "jump through stargate". After you jumped the last jump manualy u can again use the rectangles to dock but in between for some weird reason it does not work.
8. Setting up POS - Standing
The system of putting up POSes in high-sec is flawed:
If one corp--member has the standing he can leave the corp, put up the POS and join back in. As long as this is possible CCP should not demand this from everybody who wants to put one up. Just make it possible if that one has the faction standing. Don't make people jump corps for such nonsense.
9. Drone-Assitance
When you send your drones to assist somebody you have to tell him to stop shooting and shoot again. Otherwise your drones won't do anything. There is no reason for your drones to just drive their circles while a fight is going on and they are sent to assist.
10. Meta 4 strictly better than Tech 2
Some Meta-4 items are strictly better than their Tech-2 counterpart. It's ok if they are better in the fitting department, but then they should not ALSO be better in all other stats.
Example: "The Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I" costs 2/3 of the cap and 8 CPU less, and needs less skills than the Stasis Webifier II. The Stasis Webifier II on the other hand has exactly 0 advantages. There is just no reason to use it as both don't cost very much.
11. Sentry Drones need Racial Specs
T2 Sentry Drones don't have Racial Specs. Every single other T2-Drone does. Why is that? I like it because it's faster to skill, but it's also very inconsistent.
12. Named Items - Names are still too random
I wanted to remember the different Meta-Levels by their names. For example I found out that "Prototype" means "Meta 4"
Prototype Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Prototype 350mm Gauss Cannon I
Prototype Armor EM Hardener I
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher I
etc etc -> all of those are Meta 4
But then there is stuff like:
Prototype Cloaking Divise -> Meta 0
280mm Prototype Siege Cannon -> Meta 3
Wtf? This stuff is a punch in the face for everybody who would like to understand the system.
13. Cloakies are untouchable
Luckily I have jet to find somebody who abuses this but: If you have an alt-char that you don't really need you can cloak it in a system forever. There is nothing to do about it. You can have a mining corp with 80 players and 30 battleships in the system. It won't help. He can stick arround in that system for as many months as he wants. If i would be a **** and have enough cloaky-alts i could put one in every system of an alliance i don't like and none of their pve-ships or mining-ships would ever be save. For as long as I want! Nothing they can do about it.
14. Compare-tool could use a little upgrade
I love the compare-tool. But currently the easiest way to compare the range of Antimatter L and Iridium L with it is to:
Open the info of Antimatter -> click variations -> click compare -> delete all faction and other charges but Antimatter L itself -> draw Iridium L into it.
15. The compare-tool is buggy Sometimes when you delete all the items in the compare-tool you can't draw any other
items into it. You have to restart it with annother click on "compare" and delete the ones you don't want again.
16. Alliance-POSes POSes need to work for your Alliance too

Sorry for the wall of text, but this is stuff that's on my mind for 2 months now and I needed to let it go (:

The following aren't really critiques. Merely wishes (:
2.1 I'm a drone fanboy and would like the Navy Dominix to have one more low slot instead of the med slot compared to the normal Dominix. If you want a shield-tanked Faction Drone-Boat u take the Rattlesnake anyway. And an armortanked Navy Dominix has hardly a real advantage over the normal Dominix. This currently ruins the ship imo.
2.2 Annother nice thing would
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#2 - 2012-09-23 15:38:18 UTC
Working as intended.

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.

Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords
#3 - 2012-09-23 15:40:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Destriouth Hollow
Shallow answer.
Shows you didn't even bother to read.
I'm pretty sure most if this stuff is NOT intended.......
Ghazu
#4 - 2012-09-23 16:04:25 UTC
Look at this fake noob.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

GD Poljus
#5 - 2012-09-23 16:06:44 UTC
Posting in Stealth "nerf/change everything I don't agree with" thread.
Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords
#6 - 2012-09-23 16:11:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Destriouth Hollow
Ghazu wrote:
Look at this fake noob.

Who? And what do you mean?

GD Poljus wrote:
Posting in Stealth "nerf/change everything I don't agree with" thread.

I guess you are talking about me? Why in stealth? I don't understand.
And where did i say anything about nerfing? The only balance-issue I mentioned was the Navy Dominix and this does not even belong to the critic.
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-09-23 16:13:15 UTC
Does OP's post qualify as a rant?
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords
#8 - 2012-09-23 16:17:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Destriouth Hollow
Paul Oliver wrote:
Does OP's post qualify as a rant?

Why would it?
I love the game. I only want to make it better!

Are not most of my points valid? Answer this to yourself before you write such things.
GD Poljus
#9 - 2012-09-23 16:20:32 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Does OP's post qualify as a rant?


Confirming OP has passed the stealth Rant test.
Drone 16
Holy Horde
#10 - 2012-09-23 16:21:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Drone 16
Sundays are a bad day to post ideas on GD, you wlll be mercilessly "zinged" with non-constructive attempts at wit and snarkiness. As you can see most fail to actually achieve the wit and snarkiness

Good on you to try to influence the game. Keep the ideas flowing.

Monday -Saturday are just as bad as Sunday to post on here now that I think on it... Sad

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#11 - 2012-09-23 16:46:51 UTC
Well I thought it was a constructive and well written post.
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-09-23 17:01:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
I read the whole thing and I'm sorry but it comes off as a 5979 character rant similar to some nerd essay listing the various plot holes in the Star Wars series in alphabetical order. The whole time I was reading it I couldn't help but hear this guy narrating it in my head.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-09-23 17:27:28 UTC
Destriouth Hollow wrote:
6.Stopping and restarting skills all the time
Having to stop your skills each time you want to use a jumpclone or an implant is really unnecessary.

Actually it's bloody stupid...

At least now we can rename a ship without activating it...
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#14 - 2012-09-23 17:43:28 UTC
The corporation management interface looks and works like it was designed by Beelzebub, when I say designed, he went down the pub, got lashed, came home via the kebab shop and the corporation management interface was found on the bathroom floor the next morning, (knowing CCP and the Icelandic penchant for alcohol it's probably not far off the truth Twisted ).

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Sun Win
#15 - 2012-09-23 17:44:09 UTC
Welcome to Eve. The list you've made is a mixture of known issues and some of the most hotly debated features in this game. The fact that you decided to dump them all in a new thread as if you were the first to think of them is completely adorable.

Poke around features and ideas forum and you'll find the threads these belong to and more.

Also:

Destriouth Hollow wrote:

10. Meta 4 strictly better than Tech 2
Some Meta-4 items are strictly better than their Tech-2 counterpart. It's ok if they are better in the fitting department, but then they should not ALSO be better in all other stats.
Example: "The Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I" costs 2/3 of the cap and 8 CPU less, and needs less skills than the Stasis Webifier II. The Stasis Webifier II on the other hand has exactly 0 advantages. There is just no reason to use it as both don't cost very much.


Web IIs have better range.
Gorn Arming
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-09-23 18:06:24 UTC
A person can be a "critic" while an argument can be a "critique". The word you're looking for here is "critique".
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-09-23 18:36:02 UTC
Destriouth Hollow wrote:

2.Webifying allied Freighters
Webifying allied Freighters makes them jump faster.


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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-09-23 19:38:00 UTC
The list was actually quite good (was expecting something dumb). I agree with most of them tbh.

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Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords
#19 - 2012-09-23 19:39:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Destriouth Hollow
Sun Win wrote:
Welcome to Eve. The list you've made is a mixture of known issues and some of the most hotly debated features in this game. The fact that you decided to dump them all in a new thread as if you were the first to think of them is completely adorable.

Poke around features and ideas forum and you'll find the threads these belong to and more.

Also:

Web IIs have better range.


Nope. Both have a range of 10 and a falloff of 1!
Web does NOT have a better range. Web has NO advantage -> just like i said.
Instead of telling me what information to look up do that yourself!

I was not influenced by this forum.
This is all stuff that annoyed me personally.
I'm sorry you dislike my spelling and you are right: I did not really read it again for spelling issues.
I will improve this tomorrow.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-09-23 20:00:07 UTC
Very well, I'll bite... yes it will be good for you Blink

1. All faction items used to be this way, suck it up

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