EVE General Discussion

Obviously you need the lesson more then me, or do you think Plex drop in 0.0?

I was actually hanging out in Jita today and saw you chatting in local. You're right, scammers and the like are tolerated and even sung as the heroes in EVE, but that's just the game and people that play it. Don't expect anyone to shun them for it or even understand you point of view. Myself being the rare exception.

The ones you want to watch out for are Margin Trading scams. They're not so obvious up front, but rely on a game mechanic that effectively makes them invisible without closer inspection. Usually pretty obvious when you look at the buy orders for the item and see they are generally higher than the contract value. Also, there are usually a lot of sell orders for about the same value as the contract plus a bit.

What happens is you buy the contract and try to sell to the buy orders and the buyers wallet comes up empty, cancelling the order and you are left with what is usually worthless junk or something that might be deemed collectible, but is actually not of interest to anybody unless it's for a much lower price.

Price history can help, but the good ones have that taken care of with a developed price history going back months usually. Makes the contract look like a sweet deal, and you end up paying off all their sell order and trade related taxes, the original purchase cost of the item, plus potentially hundreds of millions to billions of ISK, depending on the contract and its contents.


Don't get scammed. There are 50:1 odds that any contract you look at is a scam in Jita local, and pretty good odds they are elsewhere. If you're looking for something, check the Contracts interface for the item or the market, check buy orders and sell orders, and look at price history.

Watch for deals that look too good, because they probably are the opposite. Nobody in EVE actually sells stuff well below cost or current market value. I do, and maybe a few others from time to time when we're looking to just flog something, but otherwise it doesn't really happen. Even the markets in the middle of nowhere are heavily worked if they see any activity.

Side note: I find it funny that people equate morality to having someone else think for you. Morality is something you have. It's a personal thing, and different for everybody, even if they only have a shred of it. Nobody thinks for people with morality; they do it for themselves.

Polaris based NPC?

It is simply up to you to protect yourself, EVE is not going to hold your hand for you as other games do.

LOL Internet monopoly-money scams and it's "morality" being discussed at a serious level. We had the same discussion about shooting people through the skull from up close with an uzi around the 90's.