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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#1 - 2012-09-23 07:25:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Instead of killing off an expensive clone I left in FA space (it was FA when I was there) all the way down the PXF pipe, I decided to fly out my clone in a shuttle for a look-round and a way to fill in my afternoon. ( I used a shuttle because somebody can't be f'd seeding the market with even the simplest of cloakies it seems)

So here goes, my dander is up, fingers poised on "warp to something other than a gate" and lo and behold, 28 jumps, manual flyin', gate to gate, with reckless abandon', I made it to Orvolle in quick snappy time. No brrpp brrpp, no ships. NOTHING....

2 systems had insta-logs (oh dear)

Tell me chaps, is that how the entire CFC empire is being run? Empty. Underutilised. Nobody?

Is that how 0.0 in general is now?

What a total waste of space.

It's sad really. Discuss.

(Gotta admit, the final lowsec run to Orvolle was pretty busy - FW seems to be having a good effect)

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Agent Akari
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#2 - 2012-09-23 07:30:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Agent Akari
Waste of space? But it's infinite. You just looked not enough around you. There is plenty stuff to find. This isn't sim city.
With probing you'll find a lot of stuff in that empty space though.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#3 - 2012-09-23 07:36:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Agent Akari wrote:
Waste of space? But it's infinite. You just looked not enough around you. There is plenty stuff to find. This isn't sim city.
With probing you'll find a lot of stuff in that empty space though.

errr.... I know the area very well as a matter of fact. I was talking about the lack of people. The lack of activity - from PXF all the way but the last 3 jumps into Orvolle.

Besides, people in shuttles have a terrible time scanning. I've tried. Just can't seem to get the damn stuff online Sad

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
R0me0 Charl1e
Easy A Industries
#4 - 2012-09-23 07:39:39 UTC
I'm pretty sure majority of the CFC pilots are flying in Tribute region fighting with NC. They have something better to do than to blob your shuttle.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#5 - 2012-09-23 07:42:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
R0me0 Charl1e wrote:
I'm pretty sure majority of the CFC pilots are flying in Tribute region fighting with NC. They have something better to do than to blob your shuttle.

and just what were they going to blob my shuttle with?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-09-23 07:51:39 UTC
Jump bridges, cynos, jump freighters make logistics so easy any idiot can do it. If a system doesn't have a good moon or station it might as well be deleted.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#7 - 2012-09-23 07:57:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Vaal Erit wrote:
Jump bridges, cynos, jump freighters make logistics so easy any idiot can do it. If a system doesn't have a good moon or station it might as well be deleted.


If systems can be left so wide open for so long then maybe 0.0 is just a little too easy to (not even bother to) defend.

How 'bout we make POS's go outta reo in an hour, shake up the whole damn system.

If ya have to leave a defense force it makes you less "blob the whole team" capable the larger you get. As it stands, I could deploy everyone anywhere and drop back only if my timer goes off and I got 24 hours to do it.

A can't lose button for bloated sov alliances.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#8 - 2012-09-23 08:05:26 UTC
Maybe you should go claim a system, bring your buddies with you. Blink

Empire, the next new world order.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#9 - 2012-09-23 08:10:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Merovee wrote:
Maybe you should go claim a system, bring your buddies with you. Blink

And if you read my post you'd see why that's not possible. I don't have to defend it.

TIME dear sir, is on my side.

I suggested that TIME is retracted, reduced, rescinded as a defense mechanism. Make a defense force a neccessary evil to owning and retaining sov.

Find me a nation on Earth that commits EVERY resource into offense with defense allowed to be on a safe little timer?

Betcha can't.

Any force beng attacked can use this as a mechanism to break the blob by forcing the blob to split to defend its own. At the moment it's all rock-a-bye baby.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Hypercake Mix
#10 - 2012-09-23 08:18:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Hypercake Mix
Under-utilized. Because of power projection.

Edit: and null indy is terrible.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#11 - 2012-09-23 08:21:18 UTC
Hypercake Mix wrote:
Under-utilized. Because of power projection.

Edit: and null indy is terrible.

yep. A power projection that doesn't even need to be turned on.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-09-23 08:26:56 UTC
To busy on deployment? I'm sure if you go back and shoot a few towers you'd see a response.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#13 - 2012-09-23 08:33:23 UTC
Most 0.0 systems are useless, hence why most 0.0 systems are empty. Power projection is a problem, but doesn't change the fact that if a system is crap it won't be used

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-09-23 08:40:14 UTC
22 bil for a station that's crap compared to free highsec stations, +1 bil for i-hub that provides access to l4 mission agent incom also free in highsec, +360m per month for TCU unit, plus gimped industry






why arent all nullsec systems being used?
we should nerf it that'll open it up to small alliances
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#15 - 2012-09-23 08:49:21 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:
To busy on deployment? I'm sure if you go back and shoot a few towers you'd see a response.

Yes. As stated. You can even ignore what I'm doing for 24 hours yes?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#16 - 2012-09-23 09:04:07 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Agent Akari wrote:
Waste of space? But it's infinite. You just looked not enough around you. There is plenty stuff to find. This isn't sim city.
With probing you'll find a lot of stuff in that empty space though.

errr.... I know the area very well as a matter of fact. I was talking about the lack of people. The lack of activity - from PXF all the way but the last 3 jumps into Orvolle.

Besides, people in shuttles have a terrible time scanning. I've tried. Just can't seem to get the damn stuff online Sad


I know how you feel about Shuttles and scanning; so limited in capability, and no cargo space it seems. As for the rest, you'll find that anywhere. Most of 0.0 is void of activity until you get near the barrier to entry, or egress it seems. Once you get into that pipeline, you'll find the last system or systems are heavily camped and you're chances of getting through, either way, are rather limited.

Lots of Bubbles and cloaked Legions, Interdictors, and whatever else you can imagine that's able and willing to send you back in a rather hasty fashion to wherever you left your last medical clone. There are really only a limited number of ways to get into and out of Nullsec without a Jump capable ship or similar means of entry and egress to bypass those camps. Not that you can't get through, or that all areas are heavily camped.

You'll find entry through Molden Heath isn't too bad in my experience, but once you're in... Either way, once you're in, it's quite possible you won't get back out. They seem to like preventing exit more than stopping entry. Probably because you may be coming back with goodies to salvage from your wreck, if you get that far.
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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-09-23 09:07:49 UTC
It is a symptom of the incredibly over the top power projection in this game. Why bother using and patrolling systems you own when you can run back to deal with any real threats in a matter of minutes.... from anywhere in the galaxy.
Adeleda Adoudel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-09-23 09:30:00 UTC
To be fair most of them are deployed in Tribute atm.
Also shuttles are scary.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#19 - 2012-09-23 11:09:06 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
an expensive clone I left in FA space



Yes, indeed drive around in a limousine looking at the poor commoners and tell them how they should be living life.

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Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#20 - 2012-09-23 12:22:50 UTC
Sov, BlueBlobfest.......boring, and ultimately pointless, NPC small gang warfare is where its at, let the sheep have their Sov and take orders from their masters P

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