Science & Industry

Any race has possibility to accept ready-made modules in exchange for their LPs (at rather crappy LP-to-isk rate, though). Also, faction ammo is equally [semi]useful for a given race, as it grants damage, increased by the same percentage, yet doesn't require T2 weapons. Finally, faction ships are nearly equally useful (compared to their T1 prototypes) for all races.

Tell me something about differences rather than about equalities already?

Once again I start from the end.


Pipa Porto, once again you make me wonder: are you trying to making fun of me or rather of yourself? There was just a single absolutely major patch 1.5 months ago, which rebalanced lots of ships, which made miners whine on all possible forums, and changed some blueprints as well. You must be either extremely stupid or extremely lazy to be unable to just go for the list of patch notes and find it - as it simply CAN NOT be confused with any other patch. Somehow, I hope for the latter. Patch notes are located here: http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp . I hope I shouldn't tell you where is search button located. The rest you should be able to do yourself. I just copypaste here the part about player faction blueprints:


Numbers in brackets are added by me. That's average amounts of corresponding modules sold daily. And it makes me sad. At first glance it might look like Minmatar become the most deprived after this change, but they are not - as theit damagemod #1 (200 modules sold per day) was produced from simple minerals for ages already. Actually, Gallente are. Yes, Game Masters have buffed 3 of their blueprints, in comparison with just single for each of other races. Though, these 3 just can't satisfy the needs all together. On the other hand, there IS a federation module which is useful and well-bought (200+/day). It didn't take me much time to find it, and I hope GMs can do it even easier. They just have buffed a wrong module - that's the biggest point of this topic! And I hope they fix this mistake some day.


No, it is NOT likely. First, if you do a simple calculation, you find that, for example, LP-to-isk rate of Federation Navy Tracking Computer Blueprint is at about 1:8400 at Jita prices. Famous heat sinks, for comparison, have got about 1:1750 rate. Still, somehow there are not that many pilots who cash their LP this way. Why? Because there is no demand for these modules. 10 modules per day for the whole Forge region is just nothing. Sure thing: serpentis trackcomps are exactly the same, just they cost like 50 mil less than federation ones...

The second argument was stated here already. Take a look at the price graph of, say, the same notorious sinks. 1.5 months ago it became way easier to produce them. Do you see any price decrease because of miriads of newbies who have gone to farm and produce these modules, thus increasing supply, while having the same demand? I don't. Moreover, there was actually price increase.

Try to understand it finally: "hard to use" does NOT affect neither market nor LP rate, because it does not affect experienced farmers and well-trained manufacturers. It would just benefit newbies if it suddenly became "easy to use". So please, next time you come with some funny assumption - try to do some research before posting it on forums... just to avoid making fun of yourself.

My claim was that BPCs of different factions are imbalanced, in the present - nothing more, nothing less. I still wonder why did you need this "proof" of changes in the past (as it doesn't affect my claim in any way). Out of curiosity? So was my question: why didn't you seek for it yourself, then? I didn't notice this block in patch notes back then, so I've decided that it was a "stealth change". I had to go through patch notes again, just for you - but don't expect it anymore.


Sure. Exactly. A few newbie farmers who become able to manufacture 5 modules here and there just won't affect the market where 200 modules are sold daily just in a single region, produced en mass by experienced pilots with well-trained skills.

Claim? I've just mentioned a fact: I've read on forums about it. In any case, thanks for the lesson: next time I just won't prove anything I don't need. I knew it was changed - you didn't. It was you who needed it, not me. Though, you are free to pretend that the world always looked like it looks today, to pretend that nothing changes ever, unless someone rubs your nose into it.


I'm tired of explaining it. Look at price graph of modified modules, and maybe you understand something. Or maybe rather not.

Oh, and imps have crap rate because cashing LP via imps doesn't involve buying tags for days, using buy orders and playing 0.01 isk games. It has nothing to do with manufacturing.

First, 6 BPCs of PC factions became "easier to use" 1.5 months ago. Their rates didn't go down because of that. I wonder if you actually read what I post. Or, rather, if you understand it.

Second, calculate Federation Navy Tracking Computer / Link rates yourself, if you don't trust me. You're going to be amazed how high it is. Also, they are now "easy to use" - they don't require neither skills nor moonmats anymore. According to your theory, agentrunners (me included) should "like" it, and produce them en mass. Somehow it isn't true... I wonder why.