Player Features and Ideas Discussion

CCP Fozzie: How big is the chance that you abandon the TD-thing affecting missiles?

it can effects missles, it just can't effect the range of the missles. TD kinda makes sense that it could target the missile and cuase it's explosion radius or explosion velocity to change.

missles losing range is allready the job for damps.

Too bad 97% of you are only concerned by Heavies.

If you really skilled yourselves into caldari, you should be concerned in Cruise / Torp more likely.
The fact is you know what 1400mm howitzer and 800mm Auto-cannon are, but completely ignorant on Cruise /Torp firepower. Because it requires condition you never meet in Eve.

a 1600 DPS AutoCanon / Blaster is possible and doable. a 1600 DPS Torp is possible on datasheets only.
Even Citadel missiles are the worst XL weapon available.
Leviathan the worst Titan...
And the Day i'll see any BS+ caldari missiles ships in any roam, i'll bet i could see a chinese flag on Mars.


But your cheap PVP mind cry for this nerf because you know the Drake awaits its mega Nerf soon enough.
And when this time comes, you will simply switch pewpew boat gently. Fortunately, you have Minmatar BS V already...

Now tell me how the hell Gallenteans hasn't re-conquered and re-educated this pathethic Caldari race by now?

Btw i know this is too long to read, sorry.

in few words : the Drake is programmed to die. The Tengu is just here because you have invested by chance some SP in caldari cruiser. Raven will need 4 TP +skills/implants if you hope to aim 700 DPS. No tank, no survivability, no utility.

Edit : TE will effect "slightly" missile. you know the nerf, you don't know the buff.

Torp raven isn't really any worse off than several other bs tbh. See quite alot of torp phons being effective too and they don't even get any range bonus. And the torp navy scorp makes a nice mess of stuff. Torps are not nearly as broken as cruise.

No u. Maybe now that you can't persist with a sob storyline of CCP is not reading this thread you'll stop your useless quoting followed by your one or two line whine 9000 on the same issue. Also, Fozzie has already told you these issues are not up for a vote and repaeating the same flawed arguments gains you nothing.


Probably slim and none. Maybe you could really focus on what it means for missiles. It means now you could extend range without using a rig. Or, you may want a TC or TE now because just like a turret user you could well face someone fubarring your weapon. The numbers on these are what is going to matter. Forget viewing it as a nerf, it could if done wrong end up as a huge buff for missiles. I'm trusting that the balancing team and Fozzie are not going to derp and do either a bad nerf or buff. And if they do I have hope they won't wait 4 years to fix it.


You obviously are unaware of who Fozzie is. Here's a clue watch the last few years of the alliance tournament. Anyway, if eve-kill weren't offline I'd pull you up. I'm guessing I'd get a "chron job".

Edit- just looked at your age and corp history. I think now I could be wrong in that guess. Which brings up another conundrum, that is how you could have years into the game and possibly a decent pvp history but still be such a bad poster. Regardless someone has already told you why your "size of engagement" argument is sorta funny. But yes, they aren't just viewing the changes through the prism of 0.0 blob fests.


What is sad is that you may actually beleive what you wrote. Drake fleets were quite established by 2010. They and Tengus were running all the pve content.

And with that can you guys complaining about the proposals stop re-posting the same flawed posts over and over and maybe post something new. We're on page what, 123, already and we haven't even seen any numbers yet on the mods. Seriously before going to post, please read back through the previous 122 pages. Damage numbers and comparisons are already in the thread. Much has already been posted. Posting the same stuff like mashing an f button only makes Fozzie's job slower.

We can discuss whether there should be two mods that are weapon disrupters, or whether new scripts should handle the alteration. And turret users are right there with missile users on concerns about the base strength of unbonused TDs. Have been, but missile users didn't care about them (unless they were using them to defang a turret ship) til now that they will be affecting missiles.

This stuff is happening folks, finally, for those of us that have been shouting for years that the Emperor has too many clothes. And, it is not just this. Ships are being altered directly. It will take time to get to ships like the Nighthawk. But at least the glaring problem is getting an interim fix. Noone should be crying for the Drake and Tengu. They've had a very long, too long, run at overuse because they were better. Read Fozzie's explanation as to why the weapon system is getting this treatment before the BCs are.

Things will be OK, in fact better than it has been, because we won't be stuck with a stale game with obvious easy choices.

Troll ....... :)

Troll and more troll.

You completely ignore that fact that having TD affect both Missiles and Turrets will make it a GOD module.

Missile needs a separate module to affect missiles, so it requires thinking and planning of whether to fit a missile disruptor or turret disruptor.

Damps wouldn't help with FOF's. Also the same argument would mean TD's are useless against turreted ships because of damps.

As far as range they stated they would most likely affect missile flight time.