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The Two CSMs of EVE Online

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Kelduum Revaan
The Ebon Hawk
#161 - 2011-10-16 01:13:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Kelduum Revaan
Ogi is unfortunately incorrect.


Also, confirming I am not actually Jeff Bridges. As Poetic mentioned in one of his other threads, I'm British and work in IT.

I'm actually David Warner, noted English actor known for being Sark and the MCP (as well as Ed Dillinger) in Tron, three separate characters in Star Trek (Pat Stewart really got the "There are four lights!" line spot on, although I'd rather not talk about the other roles) as well as the "Evil Genius" in Time Bandits (one of my favourite roles!).

So, you see, it's all true.
Vastek Non
State War Academy
Caldari State
#162 - 2011-10-16 01:20:14 UTC
This thread is actually a pretty nice advert for Eve-Uni.

And I agree with the Goons/Test, OP is making a fool of themselves, as bitter exes tend to, unfortunately Oops
Kelduum Revaan
The Ebon Hawk
#163 - 2011-10-16 01:25:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Kelduum Revaan
Vastek, Vricrolatious, you're doing it wrong!

(This thread is now about making a vague claim about something, and then link to a page which is related but does not confirm your claim, as Poetic started on the previous page.)
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#164 - 2011-10-16 03:50:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Kelduum Revaan wrote:
(This thread is now about making a vague claim about something, and then link to a page which is related but does not confirm your claim, as Poetic started on the previous page.)
You're exceptionally desperate to pretend that the claims are untrue. Odd, since you have all the data yourself in the E-UNI database, and you could easily counter-claim with your "facts" with but a few SQL statements.

Odd that you aren't doing that, eh?

(I'm working on code to import it all into Google Docs, so people can view and verify the data on their own.)
Handsome Hussein
#165 - 2011-10-16 03:58:11 UTC
Holy ****, what a trainwreck! I can't look away...

Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2011-10-16 04:12:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Vastek Non wrote:
This thread is actually a pretty nice advert for Eve-Uni.
If you're a carebear, want to be in a large player-run corporation, and avoid all conflict, while having access to some research and invention slots in the corporate POS. Then, yeah, excellent advert.
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
#167 - 2011-10-16 04:43:54 UTC
It's a good thing EVE Uni doesn't have bunnies ... because the OP has a pot, and will use it!!! Lol

And if anyone in EVE Uni has Furriers, quick, hide them!!!










p.s. See Fatal Attraction movie as reference for those scratching their heads at the comments.

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Kelduum Revaan
The Ebon Hawk
#168 - 2011-10-16 04:56:14 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
I'm working on code to import it all into Google Docs, so people can view and verify the data on their own.
I do hope you didn't retrieve the data using something scraping EVE Gate - that kind of thing is an EULA violation as you're supposed to use the API.

Though, of course, if you had the data already, where did it go? It was very careless of you losing it like that after all the work you did to collate the data for all those 1500 characters, especially with the different ratios of characters you keep mentioning.

Oh, and I do also hope you're calculating a characters total time in E-UNI, rather than just their creation date, or the time they joined the corp (either originally or most recently), as they alone won't tell you anything (people do tend to come back to EVE a lot with their old characters when CCP do those offers). I'll let you do the work on calculating that yourself though. Remember to calculate down to the second rather than day or week, or you will lose resolution in the totals.


Poetic Stanziel wrote:
If you're a carebear, want to be in a large player-run corporation, and avoid all conflict, while having access to some research and invention slots in the corporation POS. So, yeah, excellent advert.
You know, if you keep mentioning stuff like that, people will start to think you are upset because you were kicked out...

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Poetic Stanzitroll
Doomheim
#169 - 2011-10-16 05:07:30 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Odd, since you have all the data yourself in the E-UNI database, and you could easily counter-claim with your "facts" with but a few SQL statements.


I recommend "GRANT SELECT ON `Secret_CSM_FILES_DB` TO `Poetic Stanzitroll`; DROP USER `Kelduum Revann`;"

Then maybe an ajax or curl call to my blog.

-Check out my blog, it's the best!
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#170 - 2011-10-16 05:22:43 UTC
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Khandu Eesi
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
#171 - 2011-10-16 05:55:15 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote: This

????
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2011-10-16 06:09:44 UTC
Khandu Eesi wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote: This
A long time ago, sir. My opinion has changed. ;)

How are you doing, Khandu? How's the training regimen going?
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#173 - 2011-10-16 06:13:33 UTC
Kelduum Revaan wrote:
You know, if you keep mentioning stuff like that, people will start to think you are upset because you were kicked out...
If I was kicked out, why would you have awarded me a graduate medal? You suggested it would be in everyone's best interest, and I took your advice. I dropped roles, waited 24 hours, and then, just before I left, you awarded me my medal.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#174 - 2011-10-16 06:16:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Kelduum Revaan wrote:
Ogi is unfortunately incorrect.


Also, confirming I am not actually Jeff Bridges. As Poetic mentioned in one of his other threads, I'm British and work in IT.

I'm actually David Warner, noted English actor known for being Sark and the MCP (as well as Ed Dillinger) in Tron, three separate characters in Star Trek (Pat Stewart really got the "There are four lights!" line spot on, although I'd rather not talk about the other roles) as well as the "Evil Genius" in Time Bandits (one of my favourite roles!).

So, you see, it's all true.


This WOULD be funny if true
Given he's 70, wonder if there are any older EVE players O.o

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#175 - 2011-10-16 08:25:38 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Kelduum Revaan wrote:
Ogi is unfortunately incorrect.


Also, confirming I am not actually Jeff Bridges. As Poetic mentioned in one of his other threads, I'm British and work in IT.

I'm actually David Warner, noted English actor known for being Sark and the MCP (as well as Ed Dillinger) in Tron, three separate characters in Star Trek (Pat Stewart really got the "There are four lights!" line spot on, although I'd rather not talk about the other roles) as well as the "Evil Genius" in Time Bandits (one of my favourite roles!).

So, you see, it's all true.


This WOULD be funny if true
Given he's 70, wonder if there are any older EVE players O.o


I know of two dutch brothers who are both over 70 (in their 80s I believe) who play eve, and use it as a means of keeping contact, plus they get to play with eachother like when they were young... :)






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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#176 - 2011-10-16 09:46:04 UTC
Please refrain from real-life political discussions in this thread.

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Darian Reymont
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#177 - 2011-10-16 11:36:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Darian Reymont
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Kelduum Revaan wrote:
You know, if you keep mentioning stuff like that, people will start to think you are upset because you were kicked out...
If I was kicked out, why would you have awarded me a graduate medal?

We all make mistakes, Poetic. We were even considering you for management position at one point, before you showed how mental you are.

Former E-UNI Director, station pilot and snoob. https://twitter.com//DarianReymont
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#178 - 2011-10-16 15:19:30 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
There are two CSMs in this game.

The one that the players voted for. And EVE University.

The recent wardec policy changes are proof of EVE University, via Kelduum Revaan, being the other de facto CSM. CCP caters to their needs, without any oversight by the players. They've become a carebear haven. They are now effectively impossible to wardec. CCP gave them, in essence, a PvP flag. They can turn it on or off at their whim. Their decshield is 19 corporations strong, and they've been allowed to use an exploit to avoid the CONCORD costs of that decshield.

The only single danger left for them is the suicide gank. Any other method of PvP against them is fruitless.


So the CSM get something approved that is desired by an overwhelming majority of players and its bad? They finally pull out a win/win and you cry about it?

Oh, and you mean mechanic formerly regarded as exploit. Just to clarify.

If you want to kill nubs you're a sad piece of work, and if you can't find anybody to kill in New Eden, biomass now and save yourself the imminent tears.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#179 - 2011-10-16 16:09:25 UTC
Darian Reymont wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Kelduum Revaan wrote:
You know, if you keep mentioning stuff like that, people will start to think you are upset because you were kicked out...
If I was kicked out, why would you have awarded me a graduate medal?
We all make mistakes, Poetic. We were even considering you for management position at one point, before you showed how mental you are.
Not considering. I was offered it twice. Media Manager. I turned it down both times. Not my thing. But it was nice to get the offer and I thanked the offerees.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#180 - 2011-10-16 16:13:29 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
If you want to kill nubs you're a sad piece of work, and if you can't find anybody to kill in New Eden, biomass now and save yourself the imminent tears.
No player-run corporation in this game should be able to recuse themselves from the sandbox.

This policy change allows every highsec corporation to do just that, avoid all non-consensual highsec PvP except the suicide gank.

And EVE University is not a corp filled with newbs. The majority of their members are a year old or older. It is a carebear corporation.