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AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#21 - 2012-09-14 08:51:48 UTC
One of the best changes in a long time, hopefully this is going to make using those much neglected crusiers much more viable. Im hoping faction warfare is going to be filled with massive tech one crusier/frigate gangs bringing a bit of variety to the fights.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-09-14 12:25:39 UTC
seeing how popular the 'crappy' frigs became with their buff, im very excited about cruisers getting the same treatment.

Its been ruppys, raxes and caracels for too long imo :)

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#23 - 2012-09-17 11:36:33 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
I wonder if they will touch on the faction versions of the T1 cruisers that they will be working on. It'd be rather comical to see a stabber being better than a SFI or a caracal being better than a CNI if they did not buff the navy faction versions.


Also, T1 logi so space hobos have no excuse not to field them so fights last longer Big smile



Erhmmmm I expect this to happen

1) Buff t1 cruisers ... expansion 1
2) "ZOMFG, ZOMFG in CCP + tears on forums .... we forget to buff the navy versions .....what we gona do?"
3) expansion 2 "The Navy strikes back"
4) Hmmm ... well HACs sucks now... hmmm .... what we gonna do?
5) tears
6) some more tears for HAC love
7) Some HAC love in expansion 3
8) "ZOMFG, ZOMFG in CCP + tears on forums .... HACs now totaly PWN BCs .... what we gonna do?"
9) expansion 4 "The Death Bringing Battlecruisers"
10) Hmmmm .... well BSs sucks now .... hmmm .... what we gonna do?
11) tears
12) some more tears for BS love
13) Some BS love expansion 5
14) ........ THE NERFBAT AKA the new ship ballancing system (now we have to buy Aurum tickets to board classes of the ships and fit flufy unicorn skulls on their hulls to increase their rainbow firepower)
15) GOTO point 1 and randomly change the shipclasses.
Lev Arturis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-09-17 11:55:05 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:
Super Chair wrote:
I wonder if they will touch on the faction versions of the T1 cruisers that they will be working on. It'd be rather comical to see a stabber being better than a SFI or a caracal being better than a CNI if they did not buff the navy faction versions.


Also, T1 logi so space hobos have no excuse not to field them so fights last longer Big smile



Erhmmmm I expect this to happen

1) Buff t1 cruisers ... expansion 1
2) "ZOMFG, ZOMFG in CCP + tears on forums .... we forget to buff the navy versions .....what we gona do?"
3) expansion 2 "The Navy strikes back"
4) Hmmm ... well HACs sucks now... hmmm .... what we gonna do?
5) tears
6) some more tears for HAC love
7) Some HAC love in expansion 3
8) "ZOMFG, ZOMFG in CCP + tears on forums .... HACs now totaly PWN BCs .... what we gonna do?"
9) expansion 4 "The Death Bringing Battlecruisers"
10) Hmmmm .... well BSs sucks now .... hmmm .... what we gonna do?
11) tears
12) some more tears for BS love
13) Some BS love expansion 5
14) ........ THE NERFBAT AKA the new ship ballancing system (now we have to buy Aurum tickets to board classes of the ships and fit flufy unicorn skulls on their hulls to increase their rainbow firepower)
15) GOTO point 1 and randomly change the shipclasses.





All ships getting reworked. Back into your cave.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#25 - 2012-09-18 05:36:02 UTC
Lev Arturis wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
Super Chair wrote:
I wonder if they will touch on the faction versions of the T1 cruisers that they will be working on. It'd be rather comical to see a stabber being better than a SFI or a caracal being better than a CNI if they did not buff the navy faction versions.


Also, T1 logi so space hobos have no excuse not to field them so fights last longer Big smile



Erhmmmm I expect this to happen

1) Buff t1 cruisers ... expansion 1
2) "ZOMFG, ZOMFG in CCP + tears on forums .... we forget to buff the navy versions .....what we gona do?"
3) expansion 2 "The Navy strikes back"
4) Hmmm ... well HACs sucks now... hmmm .... what we gonna do?
5) tears
6) some more tears for HAC love
7) Some HAC love in expansion 3
8) "ZOMFG, ZOMFG in CCP + tears on forums .... HACs now totaly PWN BCs .... what we gonna do?"
9) expansion 4 "The Death Bringing Battlecruisers"
10) Hmmmm .... well BSs sucks now .... hmmm .... what we gonna do?
11) tears
12) some more tears for BS love
13) Some BS love expansion 5
14) ........ THE NERFBAT AKA the new ship ballancing system (now we have to buy Aurum tickets to board classes of the ships and fit flufy unicorn skulls on their hulls to increase their rainbow firepower)
15) GOTO point 1 and randomly change the shipclasses.





All ships getting reworked. Back into your cave.


well and from the cave perspective everything is perfectly tested .... cough .... facepalm ... they are just releasing ideas ... and we are gonna be guinea pigs on the table of some CCP people. Problem of current CCP leaders is they are not testing and they lack the long term vision. Their goal is to change the game to bring more accounts and keep their seats. Sometimes they do it good, sometimes they suck (like with FW/lowsec changes). Fortunately the EVE core concept is very strong itself (and we are very addicted).
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#26 - 2012-09-18 10:05:32 UTC
Well I think its quite obvious they can't do all the shipclasses at once. They just won't have the resources. HACs will feel very undesired (except for AHAC gangs :D) with T1 cruisers being buffed (not to mention T3 BC already have effectively forced sniper hacs out of the game).
Dan Carter Murray
#27 - 2012-09-18 10:17:58 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
For how often the omen, osprey, bellicose, etc were used it will be brand new for most people Big smile


how dare you, sir?

i'm bringing sexy (lossmails) back with TEH TIER ONE OMEN (oh noes my isk efficiency Roll)

http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com
feihcsiM
THE B0YS
#28 - 2012-09-18 12:03:09 UTC
The 'tiericide' hiotting cruisers is a major (and for me, welcome) change in the game.

Will it initialy produce some unbalanced ships? Yes, of course.
Will the eve community find unforseen ways to specialise fits to make certain ships appear OP? Undoubtedly.
Will it make eve more diverse and make T1 cruisers worth using instead of being training wheels for BCs? I hope so.

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#29 - 2012-09-18 13:00:25 UTC
feihcsiM wrote:
The 'tiericide' hiotting cruisers is a major (and for me, welcome) change in the game.

Will it initialy produce some unbalanced ships? Yes, of course.
Will the eve community find unforseen ways to specialise fits to make certain ships appear OP? Undoubtedly.
Will it make eve more diverse and make T1 cruisers worth using instead of being training wheels for BCs? I hope so.



As a 70mil sp toon with all races subcaps to lvl 5 I am happy .... and have decent cruiser production alt too .... weeeaaa ;)
Gitanmaxx
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-09-21 21:20:48 UTC
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
One of the best changes in a long time, hopefully this is going to make using those much neglected crusiers much more viable. Im hoping faction warfare is going to be filled with massive tech one crusier/frigate gangs bringing a bit of variety to the fights.



agreed. Currently it feels like there's less than a dozen ships in eve. These changes are making things much more interesting and varied. I expect the cruiser changes to do the same.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#31 - 2012-09-21 21:55:44 UTC
After seeing the change in the use of the T1 frigs with the teiricide I'm all for it to spread though the classes.

BRING IT ON!!!

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Bado Sten
Republican Guard
Shadow Cartel
#32 - 2012-09-22 22:34:58 UTC
Most important, they will work on NPC AI - see dev. blog. Hopefully that will help make FW plexes harder to farm
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#33 - 2012-09-23 00:28:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarnak Wulf
I'm very interested to see what they do with the Battlecruisers. The tier one BC all have 16 slots with the exception of the Cyclone (still a weird 5/3 high slot config). We've been told these will be buffed. All the tier two BC have 18 slots. It's been hinted that these will be nerfed. Gee Golly - does anyone else see the obvious plan there?

Edit - Tier three BC all have 17 slots....Cool
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-09-23 16:33:00 UTC
Kuehnelt wrote:
It has no highslots. Drones suck. Current Arby won't hold a candle to the incoming Crucifier's tracking disruption. Maller has +3 slots and +325 PG over it.

You can squeeze a lot of utility out of it, and you can do some funny things with it that you wouldn't do with other cruisers mainly as those other cruisers' usable highslots entice you in other directions, but you could also fly a Rupture and just kill stuff.


Quoting for hilarity.

Don't bash a ship if you don't understand how to use it.
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