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Intel HD 4000 enough to run EVE?

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Creedling
#21 - 2012-09-12 05:06:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Creedling
I'm running a client with everything (except shadows and AA) on medium at native resolution with an integrated HD 4000. Runs better than fine, I can even run 3 clients simultaneously at 1024x768 each.

However.

Not sure if it's just the Intel drivers or the chip itself, but there are several graphical glitches present. You'll see the sun through your ship and engine effects are permanently glitched out. There are other minor things but it is irritating.

If you're building a tower, buy a GTX 460 as someone above has already stated. I have this card on my custom built PC and it will run EvE with absolutely everything (and I mean everything, every single option in available on the menu) on maximum at 1920x1080 and I expect it could do the same at even higher resolutions. It also won't cost you very much now, I'd estimate around $70 or so.

Integrated chips like the HD 4000 are designed for use in mobile devices like laptops and tablets. If you have the space (and subsequently the cooling power) of a tower case, there's no reason to buy the HD 4000 over a proper Nvidia card like the GTX 460.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#22 - 2012-09-12 10:25:25 UTC
The GTX 460 has been "end-of-lifed" quite a while ago, you will have a very difficult time still finding one (and at that price).
Your best chances are either to buy second-hand (you'd want to check it in person for functionality first), or get lucky with unsold stocks at some local seller (all large/online ones are almost certainly out of any reasonable stock).
Plus, there's 3 different versions of GTX 460 (the old .75GB one, the old 1GB one, and the new 1GB one), and each have different types of performances (that's before any factory overclock differences) and eat up slightly different power amounts (sometimes significantly more than reference for the factory-overclocked models, a ~5% hike in FPS can come with up to a ~15% hike in power usage, depending on what's overclocked and how).

You're generally better off going for a brand new 550 Ti (~100$), or a 560 SE (~130$) right now, if you insist on NVIDIA.
Those still have a bit to go until they get effectively end-of-lifed - not a lot of time, though, I fully expect them to start being phased out in half a year or thereabouts.

witchking42
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-09-12 15:51:42 UTC
If you've already decide on the i5 ( I just chose the same CPU), then just build the PC and try EVE using the integrated HD4000, if your not happy grab yourself a mid-range card and crank the settings up to 11 !

tinman44
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#24 - 2012-09-20 21:01:55 UTC
I've been using my VPCEA24FM Vaio Laptop with "Intel Graphics Media Accelorator HD" and game graphics settings set to "pong era", it plays fine in small gang pvp, but has minor trouble loading up at the log in screen, trouble with the main map, and will get you killed off in fleet combat from lag In large fleet battles the FPS turn into FPMinute. 1st Gen i3 mobile processor, 4 GB of RAM.

On a less pleasant note, When i first started playing i couldnt jump systems without the laptop itself crashing. I made a petition, and a GM says their software is currently less than fully compatible with Intel Graphics equipment. Solved it by switching to windowed mode.

I fully recommend any video card between 50 and 75 dollars, if only to avoid the compatibility issue. Newer is always better, and the GTX 460 is two gens old.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-09-20 23:42:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Caleidascope
tinman44 wrote:

I fully recommend any video card between 50 and 75 dollars, if only to avoid the compatibility issue. Newer is always better, and the GTX 460 is two gens old.

lol
GTX 460 will still kick anything that comes out of intel graphics labs.

To OP.
The minimum requirements to run EVE are:
1) CPU that does SSE2 instruction set.
2) Graphics chip that does Shader Model 3.
That is it!

Regarding 1. intel started supporting SSE2 with Pentium 4. That is why all the people with old P3 boxes (like me) are out of luck. But anyway. All you have to do is get a comp with P4 or better.

Regarding 2. intel started supporting Shader Model 3 with its HD 3100 or HD 3500 graphics chip. Your HD 4000 should be fine. Like others said, HD 4000 might not be great, but it should still play the game. Anything from ATI and nVidia will be much much better than anything from intel. You can get old nVidia 8400 chip with 512 MB of video RAM for something like 40 dollars and it will run EVE client on high details.

A word of warning. If you buy nVidia and you want something decent, don't buy their 1xx, 2xx, 3xx, GT 405 series cards. Those chips only do DX 10, same as 8xxx and 9xxx series chips. At the very minimum get GT 420 or higher series chip. The GT 420 and up (5xx, 6xx) do DX 11. So if a year or two from now you need DX 11, you will have it.

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Zindela
Aegeonix Systems
#26 - 2012-09-21 00:09:30 UTC
So I completely forgot to get back to this thread with my personal experience in how my laptop runs EVE on it's integrated HD4000.

The end result is - Definitely playable. It's not super flashy, or with super high framerates, but at 1920x1080 on low, single account it's playable.

System specs for reference-
Lenovo Y580
Core i7 -3610QM
8GB ram 1600Mhz
120GB SSD

but when I let the switchable GTX 660M take over, EVE looks mighty purdy
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#27 - 2012-09-21 13:38:02 UTC
Well, like I mentioned in an earlier thread I play EVE PLUS GUILD WARS 2 in low settings NO PROBLEM off a Dell Vostro with 4 gigs RAM, win 7 64 and a measly Intel HD 3000. You can play no problem, but at the barest minimum, but play nonetheless.

So a 4000 might be a bigger improvement but remember you are not going full detail on it.

OTOH tho, friend got a Mac Retina ... IM JELLY , he plays on his "#$#"$ laptop all games better than I do on my regular desktop not due to GPU power, but out of the gorgeous SCREEN ... its amazing how a high quality screen can turn writing or doing excel sheets over and over into something less stressful for the eyes, also the integrated gpu it comes with is pretty decent!

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Dr Shameless
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-09-21 18:30:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Dr Shameless
when my desktop pc broke i ran eve on a netbook as an emergency, till i got a new desktop. Got 60fps in station and 40 outside of it lol

http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1015BX

Even worked with two clients at once (with considerable swapping but was ok for cynoing around)

So i think your setup should be fine.
Zindela
Aegeonix Systems
#29 - 2012-09-21 21:28:50 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:


OTOH tho, friend got a Mac Retina ... IM JELLY , he plays on his "#$#"$ laptop all games better than I do on my regular desktop not due to GPU power, but out of the gorgeous SCREEN ... its amazing how a high quality screen can turn writing or doing excel sheets over and over into something less stressful for the eyes, also the integrated gpu it comes with is pretty decent!



The Retina MacPro actually has a similar setup to me - It has an integrated HD4000, with a switchable GT650M 1GB DDR5 dedicated card. So it's not entirely running on the HD4000, the high-demand apps run off of a dedicated card. But I definitely have to agree that the Retina display makes everything look pretty incredible. I'm certainly not a Mac fan at all, but they hit one out of the park with that screen.
Captain Sparro
x13
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2012-09-23 15:03:06 UTC
hey, im running eve at ALL HIGH with a I5 quad core (3.00GHz) with 8gb RAM and a GTX550TI (1gb) card, im running at 60fps in combat, though running on interval one.
Scorpii Borealis
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#31 - 2012-10-10 21:29:45 UTC
Pretty sure that HD4000 will run this game since I am running this with HD3000 now Lol

60 FPS high textures and high lod, others low and no AA. Working like a charm.

OFC just one client.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#32 - 2012-10-11 00:12:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Mobile version for laptop, internal game setting immediate, driver set at best quality, game settings all at medium with AA off, 1366x768. 30+ fps and perfectly rendering with no anomalies. If I had a pci-e slot, I'd at least drop in a bargain video card of course. No such limitations on my desktop.

I'm in it for the money

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Lord AtTiLAs
Quebec's Underdog League
Quebec United Legions
#33 - 2012-12-24 03:33:28 UTC
Purchased a 2012 Mac Mini with HD4000 2 weeks ago for IOS Dev.

After noticing satisfying performance in OSX from that integrated graphic card I decided to give a go in some game. EVE Online surprisingly run smooth on this setup without that much effort.

Logged in, the used "Optimize settings for performance". Didn't try anything fancy here, and the game is really playable. Again no fancy graphic but 60fps is here for casual player ! Enjoy :)

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-12-24 07:46:21 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Side-note: the best "bang for buck" these days would be a 1GB Radeon HD 6750, should cost around 95 USD and get you up to 160 FPS station-spinning in FullHD at near-max graphic detail.

7750?

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Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-12-24 10:41:24 UTC
The integrated Intel HD4000 is surprisingly punchy, I was playing BF3 with mine while I was waiting for the graphics card to get delivered. It would certainly play EVE.
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
#36 - 2012-12-26 11:41:34 UTC
One of the best gaming CPU's, when an Intel G860 performs 2/3 as good, for 1/5 the price but you dont want to play games?

Waste of money right there so saying a £100 GPU is something you do not need is just silly.
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