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U-MAD: A terrible guide to griefing
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Yaaar's Revenge
Lightning Squad
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#1 - 2012-09-20 01:18:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Yaaar's Revenge
Ahh I have your attention... Good!

U-MAD aka Mentally Assured Destruction is a highsec PvP corp for asshats and douchebags. It has been running since jesus lost his cowboy boots and is the springboard for highsec griefing of the future. The griefing of future corps IS the future of the game, without it there are no tears in the Crime & Punishment forums, there are no hilarious lossmails of billion-ISK hurricanes carrying PLEXes.....the game deteriorates into a carebear-nuturing environment and we will have industrial alliances beating their chests over who has the most T2 BPO's in their hangars and pronounce themselves the elites of the carebear kingdom.

They are "loved" douchebags who are currently griefing EVE Uni into a place where they can't even train in. It's all hilarious to say that EVE Uni is a training alliance, so we decided to dec them and keep the dec going without contacting their directors beforehand, or setting up a timeframe and carrying out the war in the most disrespectful fashion possible. That is the way it should be.


So why then, is it necessary to not grief EVE Uni into station for 6 months solid? Opportunist ganking, griefing their miners, industrialists, one day old noobs, mission runners? What training or PvP duties are EVE Uni performing during these hilarious gankings of the new player base trying to learn all aspects of the game?


Well why don't we ask EVE Uni? They seem to feel that because of their position they are untouchable, and that nobody is a threat to them. Our goal is to prove them very wrong, and bring them back to the real world so they can see what kind of game EVE truly is...


So now I ask the PvPers of Highsec to put forward your best foot, fall over and teach EVE Uni and RvB a thing or two about greifing.


Allying U-MAD (Mentally Assured Destruction) in the wars is basically free...except for the ISK it costs to wardec E-Uni


Our new player base deserves a chance to actually learn this game is full of greifing and that if they want a safe game, EVE is not the place for them.


Asshats who can't form a fleet up to beat 20 people with hundreds availible need to be taught a lesson!


RvB has been facerolled in the past by our members, and they did so without hesitation...


Feel free to join up on our side against the terrible carebears


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Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-09-20 01:23:52 UTC
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Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-09-20 01:27:46 UTC
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GrimReaperzx
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-09-20 01:49:46 UTC
I am very poor if any UNI or RVB members would give me isk, I need it to buy ships for you to blow up!! The more isk you give the more expensive kills you get.

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Yaaar's Revenge
Lightning Squad
Snuffed Out
#5 - 2012-09-20 01:54:54 UTC
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Maldad Asesino
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#6 - 2012-09-20 04:55:26 UTC
hisecPirate
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-09-20 05:34:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
I don't have the amount of isk required to keep war deccing guys like EVE Uni or RVB or I would. Nor do I want to be in another person corp doing it. On my own or no game.

However, I do think alot of the new players in this. The major problem with wars is that the older players in Corps will beat their chest as well, but after one loss, they will leave their noob to die a horrible death and I hate that. That to me is showing roots of a dysfunctional corp not able to cope with the amount of members they have or that the older players just don't care about their young ones.

On another note I also hate HUB Campers, I am at war with one now that tell me **** off and they log off when alone but then beat their chest in groups sitting in Bhaalgorns, T3's and other nice faction ships with RR which I have no hope of taking down on my own.

People need to do what they do and they will find any justification for arguing why it is a good thing. That is what makes this game so great.

To be honest, I would rather point out to the newer guys what they did wrong to ensure that they at least learn something from mass slaughter. And no, just killing them on mass is not teaching them PVP, it is killing them on mass.

Sometimes if I kill new players in Corps I actually give them some isk back since I know how hard it is for new guys to make isk early in the game. Alot of these new players I gave tips in the past are now part of some your Merc/Griefer/Pirate corps.

Just remember that one person you help might just make him love pvp giving you more members in the future. Make them hate it and you will have more people posting on forums why HiSEC needs to be even safer.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Yaaar's Revenge
Lightning Squad
Snuffed Out
#8 - 2012-09-20 11:32:17 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
I don't have the amount of isk required to keep war deccing guys like EVE Uni or RVB or I would. Nor do I want to be in another person corp doing it. On my own or no game.

However, I do think alot of the new players in this. The major problem with wars is that the older players in Corps will beat their chest as well, but after one loss, they will leave their noob to die a horrible death and I hate that. That to me is showing roots of a dysfunctional corp not able to cope with the amount of members they have or that the older players just don't care about their young ones.

On another note I also hate HUB Campers, I am at war with one now that tell me **** off and they log off when alone but then beat their chest in groups sitting in Bhaalgorns, T3's and other nice faction ships with RR which I have no hope of taking down on my own.

People need to do what they do and they will find any justification for arguing why it is a good thing. That is what makes this game so great.

To be honest, I would rather point out to the newer guys what they did wrong to ensure that they at least learn something from mass slaughter. And no, just killing them on mass is not teaching them PVP, it is killing them on mass.

Sometimes if I kill new players in Corps I actually give them some isk back since I know how hard it is for new guys to make isk early in the game. Alot of these new players I gave tips in the past are now part of some your Merc/Griefer/Pirate corps.

Just remember that one person you help might just make him love pvp giving you more members in the future. Make them hate it and you will have more people posting on forums why HiSEC needs to be even safer.


And that's why I love you Kane <3

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Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-09-20 13:38:19 UTC
Yaaar's Revenge wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
I don't have the amount of isk required to keep war deccing guys like EVE Uni or RVB or I would. Nor do I want to be in another person corp doing it. On my own or no game.

However, I do think alot of the new players in this. The major problem with wars is that the older players in Corps will beat their chest as well, but after one loss, they will leave their noob to die a horrible death and I hate that. That to me is showing roots of a dysfunctional corp not able to cope with the amount of members they have or that the older players just don't care about their young ones.

On another note I also hate HUB Campers, I am at war with one now that tell me **** off and they log off when alone but then beat their chest in groups sitting in Bhaalgorns, T3's and other nice faction ships with RR which I have no hope of taking down on my own.

People need to do what they do and they will find any justification for arguing why it is a good thing. That is what makes this game so great.

To be honest, I would rather point out to the newer guys what they did wrong to ensure that they at least learn something from mass slaughter. And no, just killing them on mass is not teaching them PVP, it is killing them on mass.

Sometimes if I kill new players in Corps I actually give them some isk back since I know how hard it is for new guys to make isk early in the game. Alot of these new players I gave tips in the past are now part of some your Merc/Griefer/Pirate corps.

Just remember that one person you help might just make him love pvp giving you more members in the future. Make them hate it and you will have more people posting on forums why HiSEC needs to be even safer.


And that's why I love you Kane <3


I tried using the same hair product as Kane, but as you can see it didn't work out...

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Yaaar's Revenge
Lightning Squad
Snuffed Out
#10 - 2012-09-20 13:56:10 UTC
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I tried using the same hair product as Kane, but as you can see it didn't work out...


Don't be silly - your hair looks amazing :P

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loyalanon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#11 - 2012-09-20 23:34:47 UTC
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Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#12 - 2012-09-21 00:57:13 UTC
I can honestly understand where the Uni is coming from. When my alliance used to be in empire, we were under constant war dec. This pretty much made impossible for us to do any mission running and more or less prevented us from doing any industry or mining as well. There is no doubt in my mind that we would have grown into one of the leading NPE alliances if we didn't have those war decs all the time.

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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#13 - 2012-09-21 01:08:52 UTC
u-mad is pretty terrible actually. they would love for people to think that they are really good and i'm sure they have delusions of competence themselves, but that really means very little.

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loyalanon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#14 - 2012-09-21 01:45:54 UTC
Iam Widdershins wrote:
u-mad is pretty terrible actually. they would love for people to think that they are really good and i'm sure they have delusions of competence themselves, but that really means very little.


U-Mad Bro?
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#15 - 2012-09-21 05:09:58 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
Iam Widdershins wrote:
u-mad is pretty terrible actually. they would love for people to think that they are really good and i'm sure they have delusions of competence themselves, but that really means very little.


U-Mad Bro?

No thanks, I'm in PRONS. It's just not the same.

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Serena Serene
Heretic University
#16 - 2012-09-21 09:31:14 UTC
It's not been long ago that I was a noob. (Most probably would call me that still, but after a few months I don't want to hide behind a newb-status anymore).

I wasn't in Eve Uni or any other highsec training corp.

I've never expected anyone to consider my noob-status in their actions toward me. I never expected to be treated differently than any other player just because I'm new. By all means, come at me, shoot at me, take advantage of my mistakes, have fun and profit from them.
I've done the things I wanted to do and I still do and I am having fun (when I have time to play -.- but that's another matter).

But I do not have the least bit of respect for people who gloat over making others miserable. Who make it their aim to harass.
Of course others won't be happy if you destroy their stuff, some more, some less, that's just as it is. Still, shooting them is part of the game.

But delighting in griefing, aiming for this unhappiness .. "hilarious kills of people trying to learn the game".. that's not treating newbs as harsh as everyone else. That's also not aiming for the weak for some sort of strategical or tactical purpose or profit or just "the fun of seeing something blow up".

War deccing newbies to try to get them to fight. To express your disagreement with the training corp's methods. To "teach them a lesson" .. to pad your killboard.. all reasons I think are fine. Some more, some less heroic.

Making it about causing grief for others and being proud of it: that's just sad.

I'm sure you people won't give a damn, but I felt compelled to state my opinion here nonetheless.
ShipToaster
#17 - 2012-09-21 11:15:21 UTC
Serena, you do realise the average age of members in EVE uni is at least triple your character age? Dont fall for any newb corp label as it does not apply here in any way.

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Serena Serene
Heretic University
#18 - 2012-09-21 11:41:46 UTC
ShipToaster wrote:
Serena, you do realise the average age of members in EVE uni is at least triple your character age? Dont fall for any newb corp label as it does not apply here in any way.


I was referring to the OP, mentioning one day old noobs, hilarious ganking of the new playerbase, and the like.

What I was trying to say extends, to some degree, to non-noobs, too, though:
If you derive your pleasure from causing grief to others, that's just sad. Being proud of it, gloating over it doesn't make it better.

Not saying you should care too much if someone goes into rage or tears mode after you've destroyed his precious in an unfair way. It's a game about (among other things) shooting others' ships and the victims' overreactions aren't your responsibility.

But having these reactions as your goal and enjoying them is a different matter.

I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, thinking they're just playing the game enjoying the pew pew, their victims overreacting.
But if they explicitely state their aim is to cause grief, I can't do that.
Yaaar's Revenge
Lightning Squad
Snuffed Out
#19 - 2012-09-21 13:28:14 UTC
Serena Serene wrote:
ShipToaster wrote:
Serena, you do realise the average age of members in EVE uni is at least triple your character age? Dont fall for any newb corp label as it does not apply here in any way.


I was referring to the OP, mentioning one day old noobs, hilarious ganking of the new playerbase, and the like.

What I was trying to say extends, to some degree, to non-noobs, too, though:
If you derive your pleasure from causing grief to others, that's just sad. Being proud of it, gloating over it doesn't make it better.

Not saying you should care too much if someone goes into rage or tears mode after you've destroyed his precious in an unfair way. It's a game about (among other things) shooting others' ships and the victims' overreactions aren't your responsibility.

But having these reactions as your goal and enjoying them is a different matter.

I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, thinking they're just playing the game enjoying the pew pew, their victims overreacting.
But if they explicitely state their aim is to cause grief, I can't do that.


Yes the main objective is to cause grief. And I know that is a terrible thing to aim to do, but we want to bring EVE Uni down to reality and remind them that no corporation is invincible. That is all

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Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-09-21 14:00:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Ristlin Wakefield
Yaaar's Revenge wrote:
Serena Serene wrote:
ShipToaster wrote:
Serena, you do realise the average age of members in EVE uni is at least triple your character age? Dont fall for any newb corp label as it does not apply here in any way.


I was referring to the OP, mentioning one day old noobs, hilarious ganking of the new playerbase, and the like.

What I was trying to say extends, to some degree, to non-noobs, too, though:
If you derive your pleasure from causing grief to others, that's just sad. Being proud of it, gloating over it doesn't make it better.

Not saying you should care too much if someone goes into rage or tears mode after you've destroyed his precious in an unfair way. It's a game about (among other things) shooting others' ships and the victims' overreactions aren't your responsibility.

But having these reactions as your goal and enjoying them is a different matter.

I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, thinking they're just playing the game enjoying the pew pew, their victims overreacting.
But if they explicitely state their aim is to cause grief, I can't do that.


Yes the main objective is to cause grief. And I know that is a terrible thing to aim to do, but we want to bring EVE Uni down to reality and remind them that no corporation is invincible. That is all


If you really believed the crap you are spewing out you'd go to war with a target that acts and earned that "invincible" label you so easily use to describe a noobie/education corp. I'm sure AAA, Goons, or a dozen others would be happy to teach you a proper lesson in grief.

And I only say that because I believe in eHonor and I don't think I've ever seen the university act "invincible."

Edit: Actually I don't believe in eHonor, but I do believe in good education. Griefing is something that we all learn eventually, but must we teach new players so soon?

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
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