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CTA - Operation Anti missile nerf @ Jita Saturday 09/22/12 1800 hrs

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Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-09-20 19:50:19 UTC
You are a fool and your idea is stupid.

This is a much needed nerf that puts HML back in line with the other long range weapon systems.

I lied :o
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#42 - 2012-09-20 19:58:33 UTC
Your shiptypes should go

Heavy Missile ships > Missile ships >> others

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#43 - 2012-09-20 19:58:44 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


I won't be shooting any monuments, but I do think CCP is making a mistake changing to many things on heavy missiles too quickly, all at once and while not taking into consideration missiles unique characteristics.

I'm not against a good change for balance sake, but I foresee this one being like lots of other things CCP has changed in the past: Too much, resulting in more lost developer man hours to set right what could have been done right the 1st time.

The better thing to do would be to fix the Drake and Tengu (probably the 2 main reasons for HML over-use to begin with), slightly modify the HMLs (and slightly buff HAMs) and see who that works 1st.


The number crunching has been done, HML will be among the better medium long range weapons. Plus the drake and tengu will be changed with teircide.


Number crunching doesn't mean anything, actual use does. There are plenty of things in eve with nice stats that no one uses because of their downsides.

The downsides of a weapon system (like HMLs) mean making them slightly better on paper than instant hit weapons with no travel time and no-vulnerability to smart bombs probably = a weapon few people use. That's not a fix, that's a shelving.
Ajit Kumar Bhattacharya
DEEP-13
#44 - 2012-09-20 20:05:23 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
I would say this movment is well on it's way to back firing violently.


Its going as well as eating a vindaloo while suffeing from violant diarrhea. The end result will likely but just as smelly and sticky.


Do not diss the vindaloo my friend.

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-09-20 20:30:25 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
Denidil wrote:
fack off your whiny carebear (the OP)


"carebears" don't care about the nerf.


Oh yes they do, ever heard of the tengu?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#46 - 2012-09-20 20:37:07 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
Denidil wrote:
fack off your whiny carebear (the OP)

"carebears" don't care about the nerf.

Oh yes they do, ever heard of the tengu?

Don't bloody remind me.

(I don't use a tengu, but still)

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Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#47 - 2012-09-20 20:41:14 UTC
Tippia wrote:
So what should I go and shoot at if I like the missile buff?



The protestors, with something that shoots missiles preferably.
Essack Leadae
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-09-20 20:41:15 UTC
Wait, what the f... A missile nerf ?

I don't find any devblog for it. Someone has a link ?

Removing obsolete signature... You just lost time to read that =)
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#49 - 2012-09-20 21:03:26 UTC
Essack Leadae wrote:
Wait, what the f... A missile nerf ?

I don't find any devblog for it. Someone has a link ?



I was looking for one too. Haven't seen what anyone is talking about yet.
Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-09-20 21:04:17 UTC
Tippia wrote:
So what should I go and shoot at if I like the missile buff?


The dumb OP and his friends, of course.
Ensign X
#51 - 2012-09-20 21:23:05 UTC
Essack Leadae wrote:
Wait, what the f... A missile nerf ?

I don't find any devblog for it. Someone has a link ?


Features and Ideas sub-forum.

And, technically, it's not a nerf to Missiles per se, it's a nerf to Heavy Missiles and a massive nerf at that. On the other hand, Light missiles are getting a nice little buff and all missiles will now be affected by Tracking Disruptors and get the benefits of Tracking Enhancers and Tracking Computers. This, in addition to the removal of T2 missile penalties leaves missiles, as a whole, in a slightly better place while Heavy Missiles will become nigh useless.
zodkiel
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-09-20 22:10:17 UTC
If I'm not busy I'll try to make an appearance in my drek. Hopefully I'll get to lose a few too.
Empress BJ
Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd.
#53 - 2012-09-20 22:11:21 UTC
There are missiles in this game?
Ensign X
#54 - 2012-09-20 22:12:59 UTC
Empress BJ wrote:
There are missiles in this game?


From the looks of it, there's at least 2 of them attached to your chest...
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