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What ship/how to kill a plexing tengu ?
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Jadzia Narys
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-09-20 13:27:30 UTC
Ensign X wrote:

The best. most deadly set-up I've seen is an Arazu / Panther combo. You pre-scan the sites while your Panther sits outside the system but within Cyno range. When your victim springs the trap and warps into the PLEX, your Arazu fires the covert cyno outside the initial warp gate and jumps in to grab tackle. The Panther, or other BLOPs, jumps to the cyno once the tackle is made and, within a volley or two, the alpha of the Panther should have no problem overwhelming the tank of the Tengu.




First off Arazu's are not good for this as they have a 6 second decloak delay and anyone paying half attention will be gone before you can wait out those 6 secs + your lock time. In fact an arazu is so slow cloaked its almost impossible to catch an abing tengu going in a random direction. A properly fit bomber not only instalocks, it also can go twice as fast cloaked if fit right. @facepalm
Jadzia Narys
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-09-20 13:28:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jadzia Narys
BlipBlop Onzo wrote:
Hello guys. Thx ton for all the answers. Lots of usefull info in there.

But my problem is not with single pve Tengus. Those i kill with my pvp fit Tengu.

It's with the guys dualboxing tengus. Two of those ships deal way to much dps for me to be able to get one of them killed.


Dude you would be shocked to see how many people warp off and let their plex buddy die.. They almost never try to fight back. LOL




And you want to know the best part? Even if they do fight back and you cant handle it, just warp off LOL. they dont have points fitted, You would have to be pretty terribad to die to 2 tengus when neither of them has a point.
Ensign X
#23 - 2012-09-20 15:15:16 UTC
Jadzia Narys wrote:
Ensign X wrote:
If the Tengu is in a PLEX, chances are you won't be able to catch him. If you are able to catch him a smart PLEXer will start popping triggers while aligned out, forcing NPC spawns that will melt you in seconds as he knows that he can tank them longer than you.


This comment is just laughable. I almost didnt want to comment, but the tengu pilot will take the aggro of the triggers, unless you try to jump him the moment the rats spawn, which would be a horrible horrible idea. You let him trigger next spawn, wait for aggro then decloak and get to business.


You should have done yourself a favor and just not commented.

Like I said, the smart PLEXer will know each and every trigger in the PLEX as there is often more than one trigger and more than one wave. Whereas, a ganker having that same knowledge and knowing to decloak in time to those triggers is highly unlikely. When/if somebody decloaks inside that PLEX, the smart PLEXer will start popping those triggers as, chances are, he is well equipped to tank them whereas whatever just decloaked to tackle him is not. It's quite simple, really.
Ensign X
#24 - 2012-09-20 15:31:04 UTC
Jadzia Narys wrote:

First off Arazu's are not good for this as they have a 6 second decloak delay and anyone paying half attention will be gone before you can wait out those 6 secs + your lock time. In fact an arazu is so slow cloaked its almost impossible to catch an abing tengu going in a random direction. A properly fit bomber not only instalocks, it also can go twice as fast cloaked if fit right. @facepalm


Arazu and it's cloaky Recon brethren are amazingly well equipped for catching site runners, while bombers get face-raped by Tengus. That's common knowledge that you seem to be ignoring or are obliviously unaware of. Recons can easily be tanked to hang onto the Tengu A LOT longer than a Bomber could ever dream of. And the difference in speed between a cloaked Recon and a cloaked Bomber is about 60m/s, hardly the "twice as fast" as you claim.

The fact is, your random, uncited disagreement notwithstanding, the tactic I described involving a Recon + BLOPs is very, very effective when executed properly though, admittedly, a Falcon would work better in place of the Arazu simply for the safety it provides to your tackle and against potential traps.

If you feel like doing a little research so you can spout of with something intelligent next time, look up the pilot "Kerjin" or his Falcon alt "Sh1tbird" on Eve-kill or Battleclinic. He's been using this exact tactic for years and hasn't lost a ship while doing it since 2011 despite being close to the Top 100 on Battleclinic. So yes, as I said, it works.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#25 - 2012-09-20 20:08:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Grog Drinker wrote:
Zach Donnell's latest video is of him slaughtering null bear tengus in a cloaky loki:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymPCCclPDU&feature=plcp

The trick is going to be engaging them while they have aggression from the rats.

You might want to read the latest devblog, and get your kills this way while you can. [TLDR; NPC will soon switch targets]

Ought to make level 5 missions interesting again.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#26 - 2012-09-25 19:38:02 UTC
subtle turtle wrote:
It seems the best thing to use against a ratting tengu is the nerf-bat. Shocked

Nerf-Bat, I used to have a link to that. Was funny to post. Especially when people actually took the time to read it.

It was saved as a ship fitting >>"Nerf-Bat" Forget the stats, I think it was a cruise missile that did 1000 damage of each type, had high hull hit points with 99% resists, and a small explosion radius.

That certainly would take down a pair of tengu's
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