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You need to limit the ASB's to 1 booster per ship hard limit. Keep them as is and just do that.

The reason for this is simple, if you run a NORMAL booster and an ASB you can get some good tanking. If you run a BUFFER fit and an ASB you can get some good results. As the ATX showed, you can get some great results in a fleet with a Logistics ship supported by ASB fits.

Running 2 simultaneously is where the problem becomes a huge issue.


To comment on the current adjustments, I think that reducing the # of cap boosters is handicapping the module and not balancing it with the ACTUAL problems that they're facing.

Here's the problem with your "Fix".


It's that you're nerfing it for LEGITIMATE uses such as for ancillary (backup system, by definition) boosting for Logistics Reps, for a main Shield booster, for a buffer tank being used alone.

And in the process you've have made it even WORSE at being an ancillary system, and now the only way to use it is in DUAL SHIELD BOOSTING, and now even TRIPLE shield boosting setups. You're only enhancing the reason to put MORE dual shield boosters on, and not actually addressing the issue of why they are overpowered, and only exacerbating the problem.

I'm all for testing this out. But I think you're just nerfing the module and not the problem.

The only other idea I had for ASB's was that for larger cap boosters than needed (i.e. 100's instead of 50's for an MASB), you can get a cap boost while getting a shield boost simultaneously.

This would be a much smaller cap boost than a cap booster of course, but that's the only thing that has occured to me that would be cool, WITH a limit to 1 ASB per ship. But that's just a side thought.

Thats the case for all boosters, ASB or not. Making them cycle faster would nerf them by overheating, which is stupid, they are supposed to get better for a burst period while overheating, not worse.

THIS ALL DAY

I honestly thought the 1 booster per ship change was going to be obvious, as in no one opposed and everyone else in favor.

I really think ASB's are just broken as a module in general. No one uses a standard shield booster anymore (for PvP), save for those who just came back to the game and don't know about the ASB yet. I think that alone says something. I am excluding the deadspace ones used on 100MNgus because the deadspace boosters are actually viable for PvP if cost isn't an option. But when an ASB gives the same tank as a normal deadspace booster, something is wrong. The #1 argument is always that a single ASB runs out of charges eventually and then you have to survive the reload, which is circumstantially impossible or easy; but a (cost effective) standard booster has the same problem in essence. Even though it doesn't have to reload, a t2 or basic faction booster doesn't have enough tank on a non-shield boost bonused ship to survive even mediocre DPS. Whereas any ship that can fit an XL ASB has a monster tank, even if it is for a short period of time. In fleet applications, this is a huge flaw, and an ASB ship will die easily. But in solo/small gang applications, an ASB ship is unstoppable. Also, it is invulnerable to neuting, something a standard booster can't say, even though both are subject to the alpha volley weakness.

I seem to stand alone on this, but those are my thoughts. Also, I hope this makes sense despite my terrible structuring.

p much my view. Capacity, XL duration, and cap need werent really on my radar as a problem

Well if we're voting...I'd say limit it to one per ship. Overall, I think it's a pretty effective module for solo PVP.

-DO

There is a strong case for only allowing one ASB per ship. It is a module that was designed to replace the typical shield booster with a cap booster. So getting two ASBs on a ship is like getting two free mid slots. Having two ASBs allows the pilot to alternate to allow them to always have one booster going and one reloading. There are some clever overheating tactics that allow the pilot to get more tank.

However, I think limiting the number of ASBs fit won't help as much as you think. Typically, those are fit to ships that have a rep bonus, with 20+% boost amount drugs, and offgrid boosts. The Hun. Reloaded Vargurs (with logi that was jammed and damped) proved one ASB or two won't make much a difference.

The issue isn't that people are fitting more than one of them. It's the issue that the module is overpowered. When a mod is overpowered you get people wiling to sacrifice almost anything to get more of it. This includes throwing several fitting mods and faction fitting their ships to get a ship that can tank a solo ship, but dies to a gang. Ex: Dead Sleipnir

In my opinion the main issues are the ASBs high shield boost and ability to sustain that shield boost. So you fix it by either make it hold less cap boosters, nerf how much it reps, or make the amount repped be based off of the booster put it (longer duration/less tank with smaller cap boosters vs. shorter duration/higher tank with larger cap boosters). Any of these changes will cause the ASB, rep bonus, drugs, and off grid boosters to be less effective. This in turn will make the pilot question if it is really worth it to make so many sacrifices to get a second ASB.

.....Another option is to ignore that the module is overpowered and just add a stacking penalty. However regular reps don't have a stacking penalty. I don't think this is a good solution.

.....Or you could go the easy way out and only allow one ASB per ship instead of balancing the module and allowing pilots to be creative with their fits and piloting.

Allowing only one per ship won't fix ASB. We all saw AT, where only one was allowed - still everyone and their dog were fielding them - because they still rock. A good approach would be to match the fitting requirements of armor repairers /and/ allow only one per ship.


regards,

rob