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Lamda Korr
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-09-18 15:36:59 UTC
As far as experience goes I'm a relatively new player, however; I've been multi-boxing with two pilots for the last few weeks (resource gathering/level 1 missions). I'd like to get some advice from veterans on good tips so to start something off let me offer some of my own findings. Please post your own tips (bullets please).


  • Personally, I like one pilot with combat SP and the other with resource gathering like mining/salvaging/hacking.
  • Add Each of your pilots as excellent contacts. It makes it easier to find them in either the station or in local.
  • If you create your own fleet you can salvage the NPC wrecks made on missions without fear of Concord.
  • When I don't anticipate salvaging or mining I leave my 2nd pilot at my home base. It allows me check the market and buy/sell if needed.
  • Since I don't have two combat pilots, I'll wait until I've mostly cleared out an area before I bring my salvager out. I think an alternative is to add some fittings for tanking.
  • I have two monitors and play in 'windowed' mode. You can change between them much faster this way.


I know there are ways to cordinate movement of fleets but I'm still learning to do it. Transfering bookmarks is a pain so if anyone has suggestion for traveling between jumps and cosmic signitures that would be appreciated. These days I just manually fly my pilot out there and "warp to 0m" to my first pilot.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-09-18 18:04:11 UTC
Lamda Korr wrote:
As far as experience goes I'm a relatively new player, however; I've been multi-boxing with two pilots for the last few weeks (resource gathering/level 1 missions). I'd like to get some advice from veterans on good tips so to start something off let me offer some of my own findings. Please post your own tips (bullets please).


  • Personally, I like one pilot with combat SP and the other with resource gathering like mining/salvaging/hacking.
  • Add Each of your pilots as excellent contacts. It makes it easier to find them in either the station or in local.
  • If you create your own fleet you can salvage the NPC wrecks made on missions without fear of Concord.
  • When I don't anticipate salvaging or mining I leave my 2nd pilot at my home base. It allows me check the market and buy/sell if needed.
  • Since I don't have two combat pilots, I'll wait until I've mostly cleared out an area before I bring my salvager out. I think an alternative is to add some fittings for tanking.
  • I have two monitors and play in 'windowed' mode. You can change between them much faster this way.


I know there are ways to cordinate movement of fleets but I'm still learning to do it. Transfering bookmarks is a pain so if anyone has suggestion for traveling between jumps and cosmic signitures that would be appreciated. These days I just manually fly my pilot out there and "warp to 0m" to my first pilot.


Alright here it goes...

* Personally owner of 6 accounts (can run 5 at single time due to PC limitations). But I try to keep each single pilot dedicated to it's purpose of creation (and which ever goal it set it too after it makes it's initial goal).
* Each single character I build, will ALWAYS start with training the core skills up. This so each single pilot can tank and if needed can shoot stuff.
* 2 monitors here, my 2 'Main' pilots are each on their own single monitor. Where the 2nd monitor also houses the other 3 toons in minimized mode.
* Out of 13 toons, 5 toons are in same corporation.

Some small tips:

* Train all your toons so they can at least tank stuff.
* To make sharing bookmarks easier, get them into 1 corporation (your own or a settled corporation) and use corporate bookmarks (locations for newer people, I know I'm an old f*cker).
* If you create a fleet together, get the person which has the mission in a commanding position (squad commander for instance) this way he can do a "Warp squad to location" action. All persons on grid with him will warp to the location together. Should make moving your toons around easier.

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Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-09-18 18:15:08 UTC
Lamda Korr wrote:
I know there are ways to cordinate movement of fleets but I'm still learning to do it. Transfering bookmarks is a pain so if anyone has suggestion for traveling between jumps and cosmic signitures that would be appreciated. These days I just manually fly my pilot out there and "warp to 0m" to my first pilot.
Best way is to use fleet commands and corporate bookmarks, but for the later, all toons have to be in the same player owned corp.
Specializing each toon is important, then I found out some of my toons have similar needs (Orca is fantastic) and had to train some skills I didn't plan on skilling for some toons, but yeah, most toons will need core/fitting skills to be effective. I have a trading alt that does nothing but fly a rookie ship to hubs and set orders, so it only has market skills, or a scanner alt to find my keys when I get podded that only has enough to scan a WH, but the toons that really do some serious stuff have intensive skilling in support skills.

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G'rudge
Blood Coven One
#4 - 2012-09-19 18:23:04 UTC  |  Edited by: G'rudge
Not really sure here but if you have multiple accounts you pay a monthly subscription to, and you are using these accounts to make isk, why not just take the money you spend for the multiple accounts each month and buy some PLEX to sell for more isk than you could make using those extra accounts....but I dunno I'm new so maybe I'm missing something.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-09-19 18:46:07 UTC
G'rudge wrote:
Not really sure here but if you have multiple accounts you pay a monthly subscription to, and you are using these accounts to make isk, why not just take the money you spend for the multiple accounts each month and buy some PLEX to sell for more isk than you could make using those extra accounts....but I dunno I'm new so maybe I'm missing something.


Because with multiple toons you can specialize toons for certain roles which means those roles will be accessible earlier on (you can to it with 1 toon but you have to stack all skill time on that 1 single toon)

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Lamda Korr
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-09-19 19:47:00 UTC
G'rudge wrote:
Not really sure here but if you have multiple accounts you pay a monthly subscription to, and you are using these accounts to make isk, why not just take the money you spend for the multiple accounts each month and buy some PLEX to sell for more isk than you could make using those extra accounts....but I dunno I'm new so maybe I'm missing something.



Good point :-) But multi-boxing allows me to be a bit more indecisive with my SP and spend more time 'playing' than waiting. It's also good for RP.... me and my 'sister' talk among ourselves in chat quite often.
Lord Drokoth
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PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#7 - 2012-09-19 22:23:15 UTC
What i do is match each boxing characters skills ships and module layout to match eachother perfectly. the settings (graphics etc) are turned down and are also matched. Convos are turned off to prevent it causing misckicks. and i broadcast the commands across several clients using isboxer.

With this i can single handedly control 15-20 or even more ships as if i was flying one. Its very powerful when flying certain ships. ike alpha damage ships or unjammable ships like dreads where jamming cant affect the targets. It does however take a huge ammount of practice. but its well worth it.

It does have its drawbacks. but with the right fits, and piloting methods they can be somewhat mitigated.
15 mining barges also provides alot of amusement. and are easy as chips to fly.

As others said the only other factor really is the cost. its pretty expensive to run alot of accounts. and isboxer dosnt help much when youre looking to fly different sorts of ships in different roles. i have seen people try that and they have always died in a fire. i prefer to fly a number of one type of ship and have other people fill the required support roles.

Not sure how much it helps but i thought id add my thoughts.
L.D
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Legion Air
#8 - 2012-09-21 22:02:41 UTC
Lord Drokoth wrote:
What i do is match each boxing characters skills ships and module layout to match eachother perfectly. the settings (graphics etc) are turned down and are also matched. Convos are turned off to prevent it causing misckicks. and i broadcast the commands across several clients using isboxer.

With this i can single handedly control 15-20 or even more ships as if i was flying one. Its very powerful when flying certain ships. ike alpha damage ships or unjammable ships like dreads where jamming cant affect the targets. It does however take a huge ammount of practice. but its well worth it.



Wow. One might say that getting 15 multies' layout to match perfectly would be botting 1 0 1 and that the turned off convos would in fact be like that so no one would know you're afk while the bot is playing.

Anyways, pretty sure that's a violation of the EULA regardless of intent:

"CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game. [...] You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. [...] You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game."
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#9 - 2012-09-22 11:29:00 UTC
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
Wow. One might say that getting 15 multies' layout to match perfectly would be botting 1 0 1 and that the turned off convos would in fact be like that so no one would know you're afk while the bot is playing.

Anyways, pretty sure that's a violation of the EULA regardless of intent:

"CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game. [...] You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. [...] You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game."


Except that little fact that isboxer is allowed because it is not macro but just broadcaster of mouse clicks. Search button is great, you know.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-09-22 11:50:43 UTC
Lord Drokoth wrote:
What i do is match each boxing characters skills ships and module layout to match eachother perfectly. the settings (graphics etc) are turned down and are also matched. Convos are turned off to prevent it causing misckicks. and i broadcast the commands across several clients using isboxer.

With this i can single handedly control 15-20 or even more ships as if i was flying one. Its very powerful when flying certain ships. ike alpha damage ships or unjammable ships like dreads where jamming cant affect the targets. It does however take a huge ammount of practice. but its well worth it.

It does have its drawbacks. but with the right fits, and piloting methods they can be somewhat mitigated.
15 mining barges also provides alot of amusement. and are easy as chips to fly.

As others said the only other factor really is the cost. its pretty expensive to run alot of accounts. and isboxer dosnt help much when youre looking to fly different sorts of ships in different roles. i have seen people try that and they have always died in a fire. i prefer to fly a number of one type of ship and have other people fill the required support roles.

Not sure how much it helps but i thought id add my thoughts.
L.D


What.

No ISBoxing 16x forum posts

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-09-22 11:54:04 UTC
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
Lord Drokoth wrote:
What i do is match each boxing characters skills ships and module layout to match eachother perfectly. the settings (graphics etc) are turned down and are also matched. Convos are turned off to prevent it causing misckicks. and i broadcast the commands across several clients using isboxer.

With this i can single handedly control 15-20 or even more ships as if i was flying one. Its very powerful when flying certain ships. ike alpha damage ships or unjammable ships like dreads where jamming cant affect the targets. It does however take a huge ammount of practice. but its well worth it.



Wow. One might say that getting 15 multies' layout to match perfectly would be botting 1 0 1 and that the turned off convos would in fact be like that so no one would know you're afk while the bot is playing.

Anyways, pretty sure that's a violation of the EULA regardless of intent:

"CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game. [...] You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. [...] You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game."


You sir fail at knowing what a bot is.

A bot is an AUTOMATED program that works without any input from a player

ISBoxer does nothing if you don't give any input on the master client.

All it does is copy the master client to all slaves (as in a really really really quick switching of accounts and activating same module on all).

So please, before commenting do some research about stuff.

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Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Legion Air
#12 - 2012-09-22 13:04:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
J'Poll wrote:
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
Lord Drokoth wrote:
What i do is match each boxing characters skills ships and module layout to match eachother perfectly. the settings (graphics etc) are turned down and are also matched. Convos are turned off to prevent it causing misckicks. and i broadcast the commands across several clients using isboxer.

With this i can single handedly control 15-20 or even more ships as if i was flying one. Its very powerful when flying certain ships. ike alpha damage ships or unjammable ships like dreads where jamming cant affect the targets. It does however take a huge ammount of practice. but its well worth it.



Wow. One might say that getting 15 multies' layout to match perfectly would be botting 1 0 1 and that the turned off convos would in fact be like that so no one would know you're afk while the bot is playing.

Anyways, pretty sure that's a violation of the EULA regardless of intent:

"CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game. [...] You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. [...] You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game."


You sir fail at knowing what a bot is.

A bot is an AUTOMATED program that works without any input from a player

ISBoxer does nothing if you don't give any input on the master client.

All it does is copy the master client to all slaves (as in a really really really quick switching of accounts and activating same module on all).

So please, before commenting do some research about stuff.


Oh my... you have no idea how much research I have actually done, sweety. And I have English grammar on my side too. And by the English wording of the EULA, in particular the section I copied this is indeed not allowed. We can quibble over what to call it, and you can call it Jeff for all I care, but it's still a violation of the EULA.

And that's not to enter into other technicalities such as how is it possible to multibox 15 toons on dreads when all these toons are all 6 weeks old and have never left high sec.

But enough of that. I'm currently awaiting a reply from CCP on this issue. Then I will gladly post my bulk research on the botting network being led by Drokoth, of which I have identified 25 toons and counting, as well as a link to the financing of a major null sec alliance in exchange for some toon laundering. But that's for later. For now I'm having fun with these unsolicited defence lawyers' posts.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-09-22 14:47:06 UTC
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
Lord Drokoth wrote:
What i do is match each boxing characters skills ships and module layout to match eachother perfectly. the settings (graphics etc) are turned down and are also matched. Convos are turned off to prevent it causing misckicks. and i broadcast the commands across several clients using isboxer.

With this i can single handedly control 15-20 or even more ships as if i was flying one. Its very powerful when flying certain ships. ike alpha damage ships or unjammable ships like dreads where jamming cant affect the targets. It does however take a huge ammount of practice. but its well worth it.



Wow. One might say that getting 15 multies' layout to match perfectly would be botting 1 0 1 and that the turned off convos would in fact be like that so no one would know you're afk while the bot is playing.

Anyways, pretty sure that's a violation of the EULA regardless of intent:

"CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game. [...] You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. [...] You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game."


You sir fail at knowing what a bot is.

A bot is an AUTOMATED program that works without any input from a player

ISBoxer does nothing if you don't give any input on the master client.

All it does is copy the master client to all slaves (as in a really really really quick switching of accounts and activating same module on all).

So please, before commenting do some research about stuff.


Oh my... you have no idea how much research I have actually done, sweety. And I have English grammar on my side too. And by the English wording of the EULA, in particular the section I copied this is indeed not allowed. We can quibble over what to call it, and you can call it Jeff for all I care, but it's still a violation of the EULA.

And that's not to enter into other technicalities such as how is it possible to multibox 15 toons on dreads when all these toons are all 6 weeks old and have never left high sec.

But enough of that. I'm currently awaiting a reply from CCP on this issue. Then I will gladly post my bulk research on the botting network being led by Drokoth, of which I have identified 25 toons and counting, as well as a link to the financing of a major null sec alliance in exchange for some toon laundering. But that's for later. For now I'm having fun with these unsolicited defence lawyers' posts.


Yet I've seen a personal mail from CCP itself stating that ISBoxer is totally legit. It is allowed as it's a program to help multiboxing, not a bot. I doesn't let you play without input, doesn't let you automate stuff, or do stuff for you. All it does is copy inputs, which in CCP doesn't matter. As it doesn't matter if that person switches screen and does it for each single client or all in once with a copy program. It is still a manual input you are giving

So, your English grammar might be good, your knowledge about EVE sucks. Please enlighten me in your copy paste part of the EULA, where does it state that multi-boxing programs are NOT allowed.




Wait let me save you the trouble, it doesn't...

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Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Legion Air
#14 - 2012-09-22 16:01:36 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
All it does is copy inputs


LOL... just lol

Copying inputs and multiplying them is the definition of automation. And since we're on the "I saw this" subjcet, I saw another personal email from CCP saying the exact opposite of what you claim. Or did I? We'll never know, will we?


See, I'm never wrong about these or any other things. There was this one time when I thought I was wrong, but as it turned out, I was mistaken.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-09-22 17:27:08 UTC
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
All it does is copy inputs


LOL... just lol

Copying inputs and multiplying them is the definition of automation. And since we're on the "I saw this" subjcet, I saw another personal email from CCP saying the exact opposite of what you claim. Or did I? We'll never know, will we?


See, I'm never wrong about these or any other things. There was this one time when I thought I was wrong, but as it turned out, I was mistaken.

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1291641&page=10#274

Post no 274

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J'Poll
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Caldari State
#16 - 2012-09-22 17:27:45 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
All it does is copy inputs


LOL... just lol

Copying inputs and multiplying them is the definition of automation. And since we're on the "I saw this" subjcet, I saw another personal email from CCP saying the exact opposite of what you claim. Or did I? We'll never know, will we?


See, I'm never wrong about these or any other things. There was this one time when I thought I was wrong, but as it turned out, I was mistaken.


Or

Quote:
Hello there,

To make a long story short, automation of gameplay is not permitted; players must be manually issuing the commands to control their character(s) at all times.

Our stance on programs such as Synergy and hardware/software combination such as the G15 keyboard is that they can be legitimately used as long as gameplay isn't automated. Synergy allows you to move your mouse cursor to multiple different monitors which are hooked up to different computers and we do not have any qualms with players using the program for this purpose. If Synergy was used in some way to control your accounts for you without a need for you to be at your keyboard, then that would not be allowed, but I am not aware of such a functionality with this program. If Synergy is used in conjunction with some other program to automate gameplay, it would not be permitted. G15 "macros" which allow you to group different commands into one keypress are allowed. For example, setting your G1 key to press F1, F2, F3 and so on for you with one key press is allowed (although this specific command is not as useful as it was before now that we have weapon grouping).

An exceedingly complex G15 macro which would effectively automate gameplay, such as mining, without a need for the player to be present at his keyboard would be against the EULA, regardless of whether the player utilizing said macro is sitting at his keyboard at the time!

Lastly, multiboxing is allowed, and programs designed for multiboxing in mind which allow a player to manually issue the same command to multiple game clients at the same time are allowed. In the same vein as what has been stated above, the player must be manually sending the commands; if a program is automating those commands for you, then it would be considered a breach of our EULA.

I hope this clears up this matter.

Best regards,
Senior GM Lelouch
EVE Online Customer Support


I say, good luck...

Senior GM statement is the ISBoxer is legit.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#17 - 2012-09-22 18:12:42 UTC
Amarrius, while it's fun to see you arguing with J'Poll and you technically have a point that command copying is a form of "automation", this is a horse that's been beaten to death a hundred and one times. The GMs have declared that such command-copying programs are fine, and that's really the end of it. Give up, you're just wasting your breath.

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Lord Drokoth
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#18 - 2012-09-22 19:48:49 UTC
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
All it does is copy inputs


LOL... just lol

Copying inputs and multiplying them is the definition of automation. And since we're on the "I saw this" subjcet, I saw another personal email from CCP saying the exact opposite of what you claim. Or did I? We'll never know, will we?


See, I'm never wrong about these or any other things. There was this one time when I thought I was wrong, but as it turned out, I was mistaken.


Oh that is cute.
Do you really think I would open 15 additional accounts and begin a specific training plan, fly these alts in a totally obvious manner. including the use of 15 retrievers and tornadoes. and with far grander future plans as their skills develop without first checking the EULA and the relevant rules beforehand?

You need to go and have a good hard look at it, and the relevant information posted by CCPs GMs after synergy and isboxer came into existence. Have you even had a good look at its site, features and info yourself? I higly doubt it.

There are many people crying BOT on the matter. especially when I come into the system.. But its NOT botting no matter what anybody says, and im not going to bother repeating why... I need not say it again. those people wo keep crying bot need to man up and find a way around it. Youre fighting many accounts not one. Deal with it.

Your personal views on the matter, whether they be based of the desire for fairness or just out of plain jelousy simply dont matter regardless. The only thing that can possibly stop me is being told so by CCPs TOP GM. And if there are other pilots who are interested in this rather techical but rewarding way of playing EVE go ahead and contact me for any advice or tips.. I have plenty to offer.

L.D
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-09-22 20:23:45 UTC
Lord Drokoth wrote:
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
All it does is copy inputs


LOL... just lol

Copying inputs and multiplying them is the definition of automation. And since we're on the "I saw this" subjcet, I saw another personal email from CCP saying the exact opposite of what you claim. Or did I? We'll never know, will we?


See, I'm never wrong about these or any other things. There was this one time when I thought I was wrong, but as it turned out, I was mistaken.


Oh that is cute.
Do you really think I would open 15 additional accounts and begin a specific training plan, fly these alts in a totally obvious manner. including the use of 15 retrievers and tornadoes. and with far grander future plans as their skills develop without first checking the EULA and the relevant rules beforehand?

You need to go and have a good hard look at it, and the relevant information posted by CCPs GMs after synergy and isboxer came into existence. Have you even had a good look at its site, features and info yourself? I higly doubt it.

There are many people crying BOT on the matter. especially when I come into the system.. But its NOT botting no matter what anybody says, and im not going to bother repeating why... I need not say it again. those people wo keep crying bot need to man up and find a way around it. Youre fighting many accounts not one. Deal with it.

Your personal views on the matter, whether they be based of the desire for fairness or just out of plain jelousy simply dont matter regardless. The only thing that can possibly stop me is being told so by CCPs TOP GM. And if there are other pilots who are interested in this rather techical but rewarding way of playing EVE go ahead and contact me for any advice or tips.. I have plenty to offer.

L.D


The people crying that ISboxer is a botting program are just jealous they can't afford to get the set up themself.

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ISD Etetia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-09-23 02:41:21 UTC
It seems this topic is grounds for alot of confusion, and general disagreement on the subject of multiboxing and botting.
Before commenting, I'd like to stress, that while I, as ISD, is an official representative, I do not make any decisions in these cases, and Game Masters has the final say.

So, what is allowed?
  • Running multiple clients on the same machine
  • Manually sending commands
  • Duplicating commands

What is not allowed?
  • Automated gameplay

I'm not going to write a long post about the definitions and differences of human input vs automated input, or discuss the meaning of words, and grammar in the english language. At the moment, we'll have to go by the current interpretation of the EULA/TOS, in which duplicating actions across multiple clients is allowed, as long as that single action was triggered by a human

In the end, it's really quite simple: If the software allows you to play the game, without being at your computer, it's not allowed.
If you need more information, the subject was covered quite nicely by GM Lelouch (See J'Polls post above)

I cannot make a definite statement, saying ISBoxer is allowed, as neither CCP or myself, has enough inside knowledge or control over 3rd party software, and versions of it, to make such statements. Whether something is allowed depends on its functionality, not its name.

If you have any further questions or concerns on the subject, or wish to report suspecious automated gameplay activity, feel free to create a petition.

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