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PI Extraction

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Lair Osen
#1 - 2012-09-19 08:21:27 UTC
Can someone please explain how the survey and extraction process works in detail because atm I'm getting a whole lot of weird results when i start program.
For example, the fixed hourly rate and total output increasing or decreasing by up to 90% as soon as i check the program after installing it. And the numbers displayed when mousing over the graph make no mathematical sense.

-is there any way of making the actual total output display instead of the minimum value times 24
-also can someone explain why 3 extractor heads with values of 30 produce more resources than 3 with values of 50 over the same time period
-can someone please explain what the dark spikes on the graph mean
-does anyone know how resource depletion works, that means that when you restart a program without moving it gives less output
Denal Umbra
Coffee Hub
#2 - 2012-09-19 12:08:59 UTC
How high is your planetology and advanced planetology?
Is it a planet in high-sec?

If it's in high sec, you should also turn on show other players PI to see if that node is being over extracted. If so, it will most probably be deplted in a few days and will need to move the extractor heads somewhere else instead.

With 0 planetology skills, your estimates are going to be very very off from the mark at times. It's like trying to hit a ship with 0 tracking. How will you know where to place the extractor heads, if you don't know where the resources are?

1) Skill up planetology, the estimates will become closer to the real value if there are no other players over-extracting at the same spot.
2) The resource nodes might "move" in the 24h and the old place that had a 30 yield on the head, might become 230 after 5h. EVE estimates the yield over time, including the movement of the nodes. E.G. Gas cloud circles the planet in a week or two.
3)The dark spikes are the highest yields per cycle. If you mouse over it, it will say how much it will estimate to extract in that cycle.
4)Resources are removed from the planet after a cycle completes and if the amount is much bigger than the regeneration rate, next time you restart the program in the same spot, the yield will be less per hour.
Diarca Elsman
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-09-19 23:11:01 UTC
Nobody knows for sure, except the dark bar thing. If CCP knows how/if it works, they haven't told us.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-09-20 00:16:15 UTC
Advanced planetology and planetlogy skills effect your ability to get accurate data on what materials are on the planet as well as where they are located and in what quantity. The lower these two skills are the more inaccurate the data (colors) are. So when scanning a planet the data displayed really may not be that accurate for better or worst. Really a hot spot / high yield spot might really be over a few inches then where it is displayed.


Look at it this way. You're in a space ship using some type of computer program to survey a planet for materials. With low skills you have no idea what you're doing, but you get some data back. Because of your low skills you're survey of the planet is not very accurate, so when you place your extractors based on your skill to survey you're most likely not placing them in the most optimal spots.

As you train your skills you become bar better at doing the planet surveying. Your data results are far more accurate and there for the data (colors) are far more accurate.
Lair Osen
#5 - 2012-09-20 01:31:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lair Osen
can someone explain why 3 extractor heads with values of 30 produce more resources than 3 with values of 50 over the same time period?

Also is there any way to detect other players extractor heads?
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-09-20 02:20:50 UTC
Lair Osen wrote:
can someone explain why 3 extractor heads with values of 30 produce more resources than 3 with values of 50 over the same time period?

Also is there any way to detect other players extractor heads?



You didn't read the post above did you?

Because 3 heads are actually placed on higher yield minerals then the other 3 heads. The data (colors) you are looking at are not accurate because of low planetlogy skills are are really most likely several inches over in 1 direction.
Cat Harkness
Twilight Labs
The Serenity Initiative
#7 - 2012-09-22 23:48:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Harkness
Denal Umbra wrote:

If it's in high sec, you should also turn on show other players PI to see if that node is being over extracted. If so, it will most probably be deplted in a few days and will need to move the extractor heads somewhere else instead.


I can't seem to find a way to sho other players. Any help on where this option is?

p.s. Found it, Should have guessed, right click on planet....

Cat Harkness

CEO

Twilight Labs