Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You really don't see all the other piles of wasted space in this thing? Most of the 'features' are designed for fringe use while ignoring primary uses.

99 ISK for Grideris!

1 ISK subtracted as you actually need to be the CEO to change them :)

Given a lot of the changes deal with either state persistance or 'minimal' ui element setups, would it be asking too much to have a double arrow widget thinger for the base of the window to show/hide the item counter/value + the 'new stuff' buttons?

Thanks in advance for consideration.

edit: mspaint hack - http://tinypic.com/r/2zyvjvs/6

edit2: It 'all' matters the most to me. After four months of live frustration, I have simply ceased performing numerous activities & even mothballed entire professions. Hate losing UI functionaily, clarity (especially as an incurred cost of seemingly peripheral features.)

These are my top 4 which contain 2 items which were not listed @ original post.

1. Custom or predefined neocom shortcuts mainly to item hangar, ship hangar, corp hangar and market deliveries. Ship cargo as optional bonus.

2. Corp hangar index (root) window with tabs or default view with all hangars open as stack. Preferably so that search filter text box is same for all the stacked windows. Not different for each single one.

3. CTRL+A select all from ship cargo -> drag and drop all to item/ship hangar -> moves all items/ships to item/ship hangar automatically. Curretly this method moves only items or ships, depending where you drag them. Did not use to work like this.

4. Move the "always open to new window"-option to right click menu. Currently when you have plenty of windows stacked, you have that option's button taking third of each tabs width and you accidentally click it all the time.

...and what comes to stuff listed in original post they are all good but I did some re-prioritizing. As you definitely need more than one patch round to get everything done and plenty of time will pass, I believe that it is justified to ask that things are done in order where basics are fixed 1st and minor polishing left to the end.

These are the top level issues which affect everything below them


• Users can access various Inventory locations directly from the Neocom by default
• All Inventory windows are unique and always persist their shape, size & position between sessions
• All Inventory windows persist their pinned state for each session
• Corporation hangar has a root, letting the user browse through divisions like a regular inventory*
*(if this window doesn't have root, you can not make default links to corp hangars root from neocom by default)

These are very important things what comes to usability which mean world to many people


• Users can move any tab from the Index Tree of the Inventory to use as a shortcut from the Neocom
• Users can use a filter input field for the Index Tree to find tabs quicker
• All Inventory windows remember the open/close state of each tab within their window
• Users can see which POS and wrecks are in range and can be interacted with
• When moving items inside the Index Tree, the focus never goes away from the inventory the items are being moved from, it only expands sub-tree tabs if hovered over parent tabs for a certain amount of time
• Player Owned Structures (POS) have a root so that I can browse through it like a regular inventory with folders*
*(if this window don't have root, you can not make personalized links to it's root from neocom)

These are fixes which are definitely needed but not as important as "big things" above


• Corporation owners can enable/disable fleet access to bays through the Index Tree
• Users can see which inventories are inaccessible in the Neocom (Station inventories while in space)
• When moving items inside the Index Tree, the tree will scroll up or down if the mouse is moved to the upper or lower edges of the Index Tree tab
• Resizing the Inventory window will behave like other windows instead of scaling all tabs proportionally
• Users see a restrictions Icon in the Index Tree for the corporate hangars and containers they don't have access to

These are "extra stuff" which will polish the unified inventory project in the end.


• Users can group ships in Ship hangar into ship class tabs so that managing a big Ship inventory is easier
• Navigating the Index Tree can be done with the keyboard (Up & Down arrows to move up and down, Left & Right arrows to collapse and expand tabs and ENTER to select an inventory)
• Renaming divisions can be done by Right-clicking the Division directly in the Inventory
• Corporation owners can choose from a list of predefined icons for their Divisions, so they don't all look the same
• Users can create keyboard shortcuts for all bays/divisions
• The Quick Actions Menu will be added to the bottom of the Inventory window and will have a range of useful options for quicker access or for tasks that have not been available before. Actions like 'Empty' and 'Sell All'.

Thank you for this thread and update on the subject. I am happy to see that you're keeping the promise to fix this even it takes plenty of time and resources.

Yay Inventory Tabs would be so great...

Two things that have been bugging me ever since the new inventory:

- When you are trying to access a container that's no longer in your reach (happens most often when you over-shoot a POS gun battery, or a wreck/cargo can in space), please don't pop up a window then make it fall back to a base inventory window, make it either open the window you wanted in the first place with a 'out of range/not accessible' text in it, or just make it not show up at all and show an error like the old system did.

- When you are using the filter box to find a specific item, and you are looking through several different inventory locations (think personal items, then the 7 corp hangers), don't clear the filter text every time the inventory location changes, forcing me to re-type it every time I change hanger tabs.

Nice idea...and i'm glad your finally responding to the item that you promised a "weekly fix until its as usable as it was before" after this nice 2-3 month silent period.

However, your list seems a bit out of sync with the feedback most players have been leaving you for the past 5 months, and even some of the feedback that was left while it was still in Pre-Alpha test on SiSi. (before the live Beta test started on TQ)

Some things i noticed you didn't have on your pretty list.

#1
Main Inventory Screen, seriously needs to remember its own state of open/closed between Dock and Undock. This means that when i have my item hanger open in Main Inventory when i undock, i do not what it to try to show it to me as soon as i get into space, then failing to do so, it reverts to my ships cargo-hold. Which i already have open and smaller on the side!!! I don't need two of them.

Then when i dock again, since i closed the space window b/c it was showing me the second copy of my cargo, i have to re-open the Main Inventory, only for it to show me my ship's cargo. This needs to be separate. There should be no connection between what each instance tries to show you.

#2
Corp hanger button on station services, please. Also, give us back the default corp hanger tabs upon opening "corp hanger" this tree stuff is for the birds.

#3
Dropping Items/Ships into either of the Items/Ships should move all to where they should be, you know, like it used to, why was that removed?

#4
All that wasted space around the cargo window. I know you want to put fancy buttons there, but please give us the option to have them not-there when we don't want them. They take up soo much room. Point in case as stated previously in thread, Why do we need search and all those other fancies in the ORE HOLD? I can understand cargo amount, but correct me if i'm wrong, it never took up that much space before Uni-Inv. Space efficiency is key since you (CCP seem to be at war with non-cluttered GUI's)

#5
Active ship cargohold, please return this feature, if memory serves, the open cargohold used to switch when changing ships, and it would remember if you had it 'open/closed' the last time you flew that ship. Currently its sorta a pain in the behind...

That is all i've pulled off the top of my head, and i haven't even re-read any of the inventory threadnaughts that have been seemingly ignored by CCP. My suggestion is go back and read them, including the ones from the SiSi threads, b/c there ARE still things that have been wrong since day 1 on SiSi, that were just completely ignored by you (CCP).

Oh no, please, don't do that.
If you merge these two windows into one, the Inventory, it will be complicated to drag-and-drop items from one location to another.

Sometime you can have LOTS of items in the Assets window, if you merge them, it will be horrible to move items in the Inventory tree even if developpers add the following feature :



Instead, I would rather be able to drag-and-drop items from the Assets window to the Inventory.

Oh, and also this idea : (displaying wrecks distance in real time in the inventory)
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1891572#post1891572

I'd expect that to happend when the Unified inventory is more "finished" when they're doing that I'd also love this added:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1836283#post1836283

If there is no in-depth search in game.. the search function is pretty useless with using containers.

We are still talking about a sci-fi simulator in which "stuff" is "physically" moved around, transferred and bought / sold, right? Redesigning Windows Explorer is probably best left to the Microsofties.

Alternatively, consider using the customizable filtering system introduced with this UI revamp. If there is a change w/in that system (customizations) which might help you to achieve your goals, then by all means write it up!