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Equipment for null sec
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Ivica Krump
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-09-13 12:30:51 UTC
Hello,
I want to join null sec corporation and I have some questions about required equipmnet.

Lets say I can fly any ship type possible (minmatar race) and can use every module . What ships and modules should I bring down to null? Should I bring it all at once, or only some and keep the rest in 0,4 system so some cyno pilot can pick it up later? And is it better to buy it all in null sec?

I want to avoid jumping back to high sec too often.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#2 - 2012-09-13 13:32:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Danny John-Peter
Scimitar/Huginn/Cane/Maelstrom/Loki/Rapier/Stilleto/Hound/Sabre/Vaga/Munnin/Broadsword/Claymore (assuming you can use the Links)/Tempest/Tornado
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-09-13 13:48:28 UTC
your question is too "common" ( i don't know proper word).

What will you do in null? PVE/PVP/Plexes?

For PVE your choice depends of NPC type of 0.0 you are going to.
For PVP: it depends of PVP type you will do. For small gangs this is Sabre/Rapier. For big fleet OPs: Tempest,Tornado,Scimitar,Rapier.

Usually when i'm first into this alliance/corp/part of 0.0 i get cyno char there and jump my carrier with 1-2 ships. Anything other is stored in low-sec on the way.

Shoud you bring stuff from empire or buy it there? It only depends of your greediness: you spend ISK or effort. Usually in 0.0 anything is more expensive than in empire (someone needs to bring it there). My principle: when i need something i check local prices. If it is something like 5-10% or 1-2 millions above empire prices i can simply buy it. If it is more expensive and popular (people really buy it) i can buy lot in empire, get it into 0.0 and start selling there.

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Ivica Krump
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-09-13 14:07:49 UTC
Well I am interested in PVP. I wouldn't go down to null If I want to shoot NPCs. I can do that i high sec. What I was thinking of was Autocannon hurricane for standard small roams, Huginn for tackling and Munin for long range fleats. So should I change or add some ship?
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#5 - 2012-09-13 14:42:01 UTC
Ivica Krump wrote:
Well I am interested in PVP. I wouldn't go down to null If I want to shoot NPCs. I can do that i high sec. What I was thinking of was Autocannon hurricane for standard small roams, Huginn for tackling and Munin for long range fleats. So should I change or add some ship?


Small roams in 0.0? Every time I was in 0.0 it was either "the blob" or nothing. Has this changed?
inVictu5
Cruisers Crew
The Initiative.
#6 - 2012-09-14 03:49:08 UTC
make a jumpclone and move him to null

train an alt, bring bp copies down for ships/charges/ammo.

Chances r if u lose 1 ship carrying anything valuable that null sec corp/alliance u joined will give you the boot cuz u made there killboard look ugly.

welcome to boresec. I stayed for 2 weeks. most boring 2 weeks ever in eve.
Balkor Wolf
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-09-14 09:13:28 UTC
If you are looking to join an established nullsec alliance then they will give you a list of fleet concepts and fittings that they use however things like Interdictors, Interceptors, Logisticts and other kinds of support ships generally have use in every fleet.
Dan Carter Murray
#8 - 2012-09-14 10:22:19 UTC
Ivica Krump wrote:
Well I am interested in PVP. I wouldn't go down to null If I want to shoot NPCs. I can do that i high sec. What I was thinking of was Autocannon hurricane for standard small roams, Huginn for tackling and Munin for long range fleats. So should I change or add some ship?




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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#9 - 2012-09-14 10:26:22 UTC
Jump bridge stuff to lvl 4 I think xD

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Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-09-14 22:57:29 UTC
First time I went I took a covops and scouted the area for a few days to see what routes were busy, as well as setup safe spots and undock bm's for the stations that were nearby.

Ivica Krump wrote:
I wouldn't go down to null If I want to shoot NPCs. I can do that i high sec.

Don't underestimate it, faction BS spawns in the belts can drop some tasty gear, also the sites are very lucrative if you have upgraded systems and the escalations can be worth mountains of isk.





Aaewen Hrothgarson
eXtreme Co
SLYCE Pirates
#11 - 2012-09-15 11:53:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaewen Hrothgarson
Ivica Krump wrote:
Well I am interested in PVP. I wouldn't go down to null If I want to shoot NPCs. I can do that i high sec. What I was thinking of was Autocannon hurricane for standard small roams, Huginn for tackling and Munin for long range fleats. So should I change or add some ship?





For PvP look into Your alliances fleet doctrine. If they have none, bring a Hulk. Big smile

In earnest you will need ships (from highest to lowes priority) to

a) fly around cloaked and make shitloads of bookmarks, spy on non blues, scout, etc.
b) sustain your income (PvP will not pay the bills). May be Ratting, Exploration or Mining - your Choice.
c) haul stuff around (MWD + cloak), Check the market where you will move to BEFORE. Check who provides JF services and if they are trustworthy.
d) pew pew (for alliance fleet and personal taste). Do not believe ONE ship will do. Get several of the same.

If you are able to mine and produce, bring some BPCs, if not bring some extra ISK.

Get a jump clone in high sec (makes learning new skills much easier and cheaper)! Preferrably where you have some stuff stashed away.

DO NOT bring everything at once.
Shamus O'Reilly
Candy Cabal
#12 - 2012-09-15 16:52:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Shamus O'Reilly
If you want PVP and not be involved in press F1 so you can kill this go to lowsec and join a corp there. Theres advantages of nullsec over low and hi but with all advantages come disadvantages. In lowsec at least youll get some good/great solo pvpers out there to fight also and be able to learn the flying and fighting tactics of the game in a smaller scale

"I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining."
Minmatar Citizen 76959458561
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-09-15 22:29:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Minmatar Citizen 76959458561
If u want pvp in o.o join a roaming corp that bounce npc o.o every now and then
if you join sov holding alliance b preperd to sit and wait 2+ hours for fleet form up and then no garante of a fight also get used to pressing f1 and keeping quite on coms
You will b fighting for allince leader to get space ritch rember that when your primaryed
you be better off in losec for pvp tbh and fw if want keep sec stat
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#14 - 2012-09-16 22:32:47 UTC
Don't forget your preferred flavour/s of Stealth Bomber --or actually, several-- plus full fittings and ammo for each.

Incredibly useful little ships, those. Twisted

As well:

Cloaky hauler, if you can fly one.

Proby ship, and skills to use it well.

BPCs for at least ammo, well-researched, and maybe even something that can mine whilst tanking belt or grav-site rats on occasion for materials for same. (Assuming your alli has a station you can build out of, I wouldn't bother building using POS-mods. Too much waste IIRC, plus you can sell off any excess. Just don't be a **** and gouge your mates, that's just low.)

In general, try to "pack light," so that if/when things go pear-shaped, you have a decent chance of getting your stuff out.

Ni.
Ivica Krump
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-09-17 05:12:04 UTC
Thank you guys for your tips and ideas. I will start slowly wth few combat ships and than move down the rest once I am settled.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-09-18 22:34:17 UTC
Meditril wrote:
Ivica Krump wrote:
Well I am interested in PVP. I wouldn't go down to null If I want to shoot NPCs. I can do that i high sec. What I was thinking of was Autocannon hurricane for standard small roams, Huginn for tackling and Munin for long range fleats. So should I change or add some ship?


Small roams in 0.0? Every time I was in 0.0 it was either "the blob" or nothing. Has this changed?

Small roams in low-sec you say? Every time I was roaming in low-sec it was either "the blob" outnumbering me at least 4 to 1 or nothing. Has this changed?

There is a lot of room for 10-35 man roams in (sov) 0.0 and however you may want to call them, they are not comparable in terms of tactics and objectives to the large fleets of 150+.

.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#17 - 2012-09-19 00:49:40 UTC
A second monitor to watch netflix while you sleep through POS ops and shooting rats in anomalies.
The Djentleman Paulson
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#18 - 2012-09-19 12:27:29 UTC
inVictu5 wrote:
make a jumpclone and move him to null

train an alt, bring bp copies down for ships/charges/ammo.

Chances r if u lose 1 ship carrying anything valuable that null sec corp/alliance u joined will give you the boot cuz u made there killboard look ugly.

welcome to boresec. I stayed for 2 weeks. most boring 2 weeks ever in eve.


GOOD SIR PERHAPS YOU SHOULD JOIN AN ALLIANCE WHICH IS NOT DICKS
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2012-09-20 21:31:19 UTC
In Null most of the alliance will have fleet doctrines published in corp bulletins and forums. Can never go wrong with bringing interceptors\fast tackle, they are always welcome, logi is also always needed. Other than that bombers are good to have and a BC for smaller roams and your favorite cruiser. Unless you going to CFC.. then bring lots of drakes Twisted
Also you better take some PVE ships otherwise you going to be bored as hell.