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How the hell do I enjoy this game?

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Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#81 - 2012-09-18 16:54:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Xpaulusx
baltec1 wrote:
EVEis about working towards your own goals. If you are looking for Instant gratification and pre set goals you not not make it very far here.

Exactly, Eve is not a first person shooter. My advice is to try Dust if thats what you want.

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Dunna Mek
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2012-09-18 17:08:05 UTC
I actually don't think Eve University is that great for new players. I actually found them to be a bit uptight.

Your gonna hear a lot of suggestions on RvB and Factional Warfare. I only spent a few weeks in RvB on a alt, so I can't say much about it. It is fun. I will say I think FW is better for a few reasons. First, you can actually make ISK in FW through deplexing and gaining LP (and later selling the items obtained). Also, the work toward capturing systems adds another layer of interest on top of already great PvP. And finally, in FW systems, there are several plexes, many of which limit ship types. So if your looking for Frig/destroyer fights, you can jump into opposing system minor plexes, or defend your own minor plexes. Only Frigs and destroys can access those plexes. You can also frequently find solo PvP in those plexes, but be prepared, as a lot of solo pilots you find are damn good PvP'ers.

One last thing. If you don't already know it, you can join any militia (provided you have the standings). Go to a system of the militia you want to join, and sign up on the militia tab. In the Gallente militia, we are always looking for more pilots to kill the damn squids. Once in, either post yourself in the recruitment forum as a pilot looking for a FW corp, or find one through the militia chat. If you join Gallente, you can try my corp, as I think we are still recruiting.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114310&find=unread
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#83 - 2012-09-18 17:28:53 UTC
Dunna Mek wrote:
I actually don't think Eve University is that great for new players. I actually found them to be a bit uptight.

A bit? They are downright Anal.

I started to apply but halfway through the questionare after reading the Wardec Rules I said to myself "Man I just want to play, these guys are really anal"...

No thanks...
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#84 - 2012-09-18 17:33:48 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
Dunna Mek wrote:
I actually don't think Eve University is that great for new players. I actually found them to be a bit uptight.

A bit? They are downright Anal.

I started to apply but halfway through the questionare after reading the Wardec Rules I said to myself "Man I just want to play, these guys are really anal"...

No thanks...
Also if they reject you they refuse to say why, apparently they don't want even new players fixing whatever was wrong so they can get in and learn to play the game properly. Ugh
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tycho Antus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2012-09-18 18:30:19 UTC
Make money with industry and market don't need all industry skills to level 5.

You just need to analyze the market, estimate your profit with the production of X units of the Y item (tools on battleclinic), buy or extract raw materials, haul it.

With all your skills at level 5, your profit will be higher, I agree, but you will not loose money if you have some skills under the lvl5. And happily, because all the new indusltrialists could not have money during some months.

Market analyse and profit prediction are the basis of a good industrial success (for my point of view).

Tycho Antus

Former Captain in the Federation Navy

Chief Executive Officer of Reclamation Technologies

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#86 - 2012-09-18 19:17:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Instead of lamenting being stuck flying stupid cheap tackle frigates & dreaming of dreadnaughts, instead say to yourself "You know what? I'm going to become the best tackle frigate pilot in the game. I'm going to max all my tackle frigate skills & tactics until people in battleships start pooping themselves at the sight of my unstoppable little yellowjacket zooming in on their fat butts."

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Dunna Mek
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2012-09-18 22:38:14 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
Dunna Mek wrote:
I actually don't think Eve University is that great for new players. I actually found them to be a bit uptight.

A bit? They are downright Anal.

I started to apply but halfway through the questionare after reading the Wardec Rules I said to myself "Man I just want to play, these guys are really anal"...

No thanks...


Well, they do have an excellent Wiki, and great online resources. They also run some very informative classes. But their problem lies (I think) in that they are totally overwhelmed with all the new players trying to get into E-Uni, and trying to manage them once they're in. Over time, it just felt like the leadership was almost downright unfriendly, and very restrictive about what members could and should be doing during wartime. That's fine for more seasoned, competitive corps, but it just feels wrong for a newbie corp.

I think E-Uni would be better served evolving into something like Agony Unleashed, where they are a bonafied corp, but they also offer classes to a whole host of people trying to learn the game, but don't necessarily want to join their corp.
ian papabear
No Regard.
#88 - 2012-09-18 22:51:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ian papabear
In my opinion if you want to have fun you have to have the backing of a corp and/or alliance. In addition to that, you want to make sure you try out everything that the game has to offer. I have played eve since the game was first released and since then ive have dipped my hand in everything from industry work , spying, suicide ganking etc. But my true love is pvp , i love the rush that you get from being in a big fleet fight of 100 vs 100 or 500 vs 500 with titans and super caps on the field the intensity, the discipline and the knowledge of players combing to create something beautiful is just beyond words. But before you do anything you need to have a foundation for making isk, without isk you cant do crap in the game and without isk youre just a nobody.

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Natasha Taggart
Templar Directorate Holdings
United Interests
#89 - 2012-09-18 23:11:21 UTC
Hongus Gwag wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Enjoy EVE? You're doing it wrong. You may aspire to enjoy whatever you do in EVE, but EVE in itself is neither enjoyable nor fun.


This. Eve is like getting mugged by 5 guys; a good day is rolling around on the floor in such a way that you don't get kicked in the happy sack.


howling laughter!!! WOOT!!!

Thats so coool!
If you could eat one single crayon from the big box of 64, what color would it be... and why would you pick that one?
Natasha Taggart
Templar Directorate Holdings
United Interests
#90 - 2012-09-18 23:19:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Natasha Taggart
OK, if this is the upteenth time you have activated your pod, then whats up? You a glutton or something??? Hunny if you dont like it, then drop it and do what you like... this thing aint easy forsho, and its not for everyone. Just because they say smart people like this game dont mean you have to beat yourself up that your not able to!!!

ROFL... just playing Big smile

Join a big corp with activities, and youll be fine. My CEO says this isnt really fun unless your grouped up most of the time. Running silly dist missions and chatting is the most fun, maybe you just need to try some other stuff. With all the little minigames in this you should be able find a nook to get in and make some ISK doing.

Hell, just play on the forums, and stalk Paul Oliver some, he goes fun places cause hes everyplace I end up going, and this kitty aint boring!

*kisses* PPP

And im calling out on the "Sisters of Eve" to give OP a shout and grace his topic with some super space kitty luv.
If you could eat one single crayon from the big box of 64, what color would it be... and why would you pick that one?
Lythane
Weave
#91 - 2012-09-18 23:19:10 UTC
I think I'll give EVE a try again, perhaps the problem with PVP was that I kept joining tiny corps, also I'll try joining an industrial corp and work on the manufacturing.

Agony Unleashed sounds interesting, where can I find more info?

I did consider EVE University, but they seem quite hostile towards PVP and have far too many rules and regulations.
Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#92 - 2012-09-19 00:02:31 UTC
Dyrallanex wrote:
So, I've activated my EVE account for the whateverth time or so, and I still can't seem to enjoy this game. It seems that it takes months of skill training to participate enjoyably in anything except missioning. mining or playing the market .PVP? "Fly a small frigate and tackle in fleets until your 'core' skills are up, and you can fit T2s then move into something bigger". Manufacturing? "Train all your production skils to 5, until then your just losing money".

It's very discouraging and frustrating. If I hadn't already put another 20 bucks in by buying a PLEX(to stockpile some ISK so I can lose ships in PVP), I would have cancelled by now.

So, any advice? Is EVE not for me? Should I cut my losses and cancel, or is there a way to get some enjoyment out of this game.

(oh, and I am not a WoW player, never have been, so don't say "GB2WoW" I like cerebral sci-fi games, it's just I can't seem to get into this game despite multiple attempts because of the interminable skill times and requirements)


Read the above as: Entertain me please.

EvE asks you; "How do you wish to entertain yourself?"

If you are bored in EvE it is probably because you are playing a boring character.

SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#93 - 2012-09-19 00:39:28 UTC
I think what I find weird about your initial post is that you disparage tackling. I don't know how it works in highsec, but in nullsec the tackler is probably more important than any given line battleship pilot, and a lot of people love tackling so much that they work into specialized hulls for it such as hictors/dictors and interceptors.

Some of the most fun I've had involved a small cheap frigate orbiting something big shiny and expensive.