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What are the ISK sink in EVE?
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Juniorama
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-09-18 18:43:17 UTC
I can name a few.

1.) Skill Books
2.) BPOs
3.) Clones
4.) Sov Costs
5.) Some Items from the LP store

That's all that I can think of...

I know some people would include ship losses as an isk sink, I do not. I believe it and all other inventory losses should be considered mineral/material losses. When a ship is blown up isk does not leave the game. In fact, isk is injected into the game (insurance) while minerals are removed. If you bought that ship from some one, he/she still has your isk. You just no longer have their minerals.
Robert De'Arneth
#2 - 2012-09-18 18:46:15 UTC
Insurance
Lost ships
Lost Fittings

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-09-18 18:46:53 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Insurance
Lost ships
Lost Fittings


lost ships and mods are not an isk sink

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#4 - 2012-09-18 18:48:51 UTC
My wallet
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#5 - 2012-09-18 18:49:19 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Insurance
Lost ships
Lost Fittings


Here we go again!

Insurance is a net faucet. All payouts are greater than all payins.

And lost fittings and ships are not an ISK sink. The money you paid for them is still in someone else's wallet.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-09-18 18:50:36 UTC
Taxes
CONCORD Protection Fe... oh wait.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-09-18 18:52:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarah Schneider
Shizuken wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Insurance
Lost ships
Lost Fittings


Here we go again!

Insurance is a net faucet. All payouts are greater than all payins.

And lost fittings and ships are not an ISK sink. The money you paid for them is still in someone else's wallet.

That's assuming all insured ships always get blown up, which means, we don't know, CCP's the only one who can say.

double poast! my bad.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Robert De'Arneth
#8 - 2012-09-18 18:52:45 UTC
Andski wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Insurance
Lost ships
Lost Fittings


lost ships and mods are not an isk sink



Ok let me reprhase it, it is an ISK sink for me.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-09-18 18:55:22 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Andski wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Insurance
Lost ships
Lost Fittings


lost ships and mods are not an isk sink



Ok let me reprhase it, it is an ISK sink for me.


ISK sink : cash (ISK) removed from the economy, not from your pocket.
ISK faucet : cash (ISK) added into the economy, not to your pocket.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Commander Spurty
#10 - 2012-09-18 19:02:06 UTC
Bills - alliance, corp, offices, blue standings ... No wait too soon

Not sure I'm believing the guy aboves concept of a sink.

ISK sent to npcs just sinks
ISK spent on things sold by players did not sink, resurfaced elsewhere

Perhaps it's just me though.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#11 - 2012-09-18 19:04:31 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
CONCORD Protection Fe... oh wait.


Well since "CONCORD doesn't prevent, they punish" applies, it's not so much a protection fee as a mandatory mercenary contract to a company with a 100% guaranteed success rate & amazingly good response time.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2012-09-18 19:05:05 UTC
Skill Books
BPO's
Capital Ships

FC, what do?
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#13 - 2012-09-18 19:08:53 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Shizuken wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Insurance
Lost ships
Lost Fittings


Here we go again!

Insurance is a net faucet. All payouts are greater than all payins.

And lost fittings and ships are not an ISK sink. The money you paid for them is still in someone else's wallet.

That's assuming all insured ships always get blown up, which means, we don't know, CCP's the only one who can say.

double poast! my bad.


It's not an assumption. More money is paid out in ship losses than is taken in as insurance premiums. Although dated the last Quarterly Economic Report demonstrates this fact. Also, dated though it is, there have not been significant changes to insurance payouts or ship destructions since the report was issued that would change the ratio to a net sink from a faucet.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/QEN/QEN_Q4-2010.pdf

Read from page 18 on.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-09-18 19:24:49 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Shizuken wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Insurance
Lost ships
Lost Fittings


Here we go again!

Insurance is a net faucet. All payouts are greater than all payins.

And lost fittings and ships are not an ISK sink. The money you paid for them is still in someone else's wallet.

That's assuming all insured ships always get blown up, which means, we don't know, CCP's the only one who can say.

double poast! my bad.


It's not an assumption. More money is paid out in ship losses than is taken in as insurance premiums. Although dated the last Quarterly Economic Report demonstrates this fact. Also, dated though it is, there have not been significant changes to insurance payouts or ship destructions since the report was issued that would change the ratio to a net sink from a faucet.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/QEN/QEN_Q4-2010.pdf

Read from page 18 on.

Ah fair enough then, haven't read that report.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-09-18 19:29:34 UTC
BPOs
LP items
clones
sovereignty
insurance
wardecs
Taxes
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-09-18 19:42:22 UTC
People who ragequit the game without letting anyone else has their stuffs first
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#17 - 2012-09-18 19:59:27 UTC
Using an exploit that get you a lot of ISK, then posting about it forum and waiting till CCP take those ISK from you. Roll

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Citizen of Solitude
Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-09-18 20:10:08 UTC
SOMER Blink.
Lord Okinaba
Aliastra
#19 - 2012-09-18 20:20:29 UTC
CSPA Charges
Starrakatt
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#20 - 2012-09-18 20:28:48 UTC
Repair and Refining fees in NPC stations (could be labelled under 'Taxes' I guess...)

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