Crime & Punishment

Why do people always think Goonswarm Federation is controling everything? The fact that a solution to your problem was given to you by one of their members does not mean they will profit from it. I learned quite a few stuff by just reading all they ahve posted here and elsewhere on the net. They are litterally a gold mine of information with cherries on top. I do not know the whole history of EvE but from what I know, they were probably never really a problem. The real problem is people doing stuff so stupid that it gets easyly abused without breaking the rules.

Stop carrying more than 2 bill worth of cargo in a freighter. Thast all you need to know. And if you are under 2 bill, don't ever think of wrapping it. It looks like you are trying to hide something. They seem to be curious people too because I know they blew up a freighter with only 200 mill of trit in it. It was wrapped so it looked like ti was worth more.

2 basic rules.

1- No plastic wraps

2- Not over 2 bill.

How hard is this to understand?

Winner winner chicken dinner.



Hauling 12 plex in anything is stupid.

Not hauling in a hauler is stupid.

Find the happy medium.

And to think a newbie wrote that...

Can I feel proud now?

Laziness. I'd be willing to bet that some of those ganked freighters were probably on autopilot. Even if they weren't, the fact that their pilots were taking them through a red-hot ganking system rather than take the long way around indicates more laziness. A quick check of the galaxy map with the "ships destroyed in last 24 hours" would have indicated that they were passing through a very dangerous area; a check of eve-kill would have shown that it was open season on freighters. And on top of all that, they were carrying stuff like blueprints and PLEX that could have been carried much more safely by a shuttle or a fast frigate, but no: they didn't want to make two trips, so they just dump it into the freighter's hold and hit the "autopilot" button.

You know what the sad thing is? Freighter pilots may be a bit more careful for a few days, but a week or two from now it'll all be forgotten.

Good news for the Goons, I guess.

The no wraps rules always applies. If you wrap it, either you are stupid in making your cargo look like it's worth a lot OR you are an idiot carrying over 2 bill in a freighter. In both case, you should expect to be shot at. Just look up the 200 mill isk of trit freighter killed. It was wrapped. No one knew it was trit till they could open it or see the eve-kill report. They didn't let it pass. They lost over it but I am pretty sure the made thier money back on the next freighter.

Long story short, NO WRAPS or you will be shot.

I write very bad english. I will help me with a translator-program.
even if I value my goods I transport the low regard, the loss is greater than what the enemy is losing ships.
about 11 brutix can take a freighter in a few seconds to destroy, there are also examples of this on the kill board.
is it warps as freighter pilot in high sec, the warping of gate to gate to 0, push away from the warp on preventing and pushed out of the reach of the sentry guns, you lost.
you can not control it anymore.
this should be tolerated by ccp more we do not need high sec
some will think sure if they are even still fly the freighter, with the risk?

therefore look forward freight companies which are much lighter ready to take the risk for a reward for conformity.
that will affect the selling price of the goods.
what many people forget that there are items which, in the quantities and volumes, are difficult to transport smaller freighters.
there will probably be any ship that the corp buys in jita, might have to pick up yourself.
that's how it looks with the transportation of battleships to jita.

The payout is higher than the market price + insurance cost?

You use a cargo scanner to see what they are hauling on the other side of the gate. T3 hulls and PLEX can make it worth it...

Personally I love hearing about people in freighters that got ganked. I'm REALLY impressed when I hear about one group or another ganking a jump freighter. Lots of EHP there... I think empire gankers are ballsy pirates. It's not easy.

Good job to whoever can pull of ganking HS freighters.

1. Make multiple trips. Unless you can afford to sneeze off the 1.5B ISK cost of a freighter (plus whatever cargo you lost), the extra time between destinations is well worth it.
2. Make the trip in several legs. Travel a few jumps, dock up, reconnoiter, make a few more jumps, dock up, etc. Alternatively, use a scout.
3. If you're carrying minerals or ore in your freighter, don't wrap it. Wrapping it only makes gankers think you're carrying much more valuable cargo.
4. If you must carry valuable cargo that takes up a lot of space, use an Orca to transport them. Yes, you'll still have to make multiple trips, but an Orca is a lot more likely to survive the trip than a freighter.
5. If you *must* use a freighter for high-value goods on long-haul journeys, always take an escort. An EWAR/logi vessel is probably more use than a combat escort to fight gankers, because all the escort has to do is keep you alive until CONCORD arrives.

worth of cargo > 2*cost of ganking then gank

worth of cargo < 2*cost of ganking then let pass

The raw number ofr cost of ganking I read around is 1 bill. Than mean heaul under 2 bill or get blown up.

Wrapping your cargo no matter what it is virtually add 2 bill to the worth of your cargo no matter what it actaully is. Thats why wraps should not be used.