Out of Pod Experience

Couple of problems:
* small lead hybrid ammo - volume 0.005 m3, mass: 0kg

* the round isn't solid lead: "a shell of titanium and a core of lead atoms suspended in a plasma state. Railguns launch the shell directly"

* the round is limited to 250 km. Something moving at any appreciable fraction of the speed of light wouldn't be limited to 250km.

* Eve ship bounce off of objects, i.e. they're immune to kinetic damage from direct impacts. Therefore Eve railguns probably don't rely on direct kinetic energy to cause damage.

* A 150mm eve railgun uses 3.34GJ per shot and a lead round somehow magically reduces that to 1.67GJ of energy. Thus the amount of energy available to accelerate the rounds can't exceed 1.67GJ, which limits the max direct strike kinetic damage possible.

* The type of railgun round magically affects range, capacitor usage, etc..

* If the railgun round is firing at any appreciable fraction of the speed of light, you don't need a warhead, such as anti-matter, lead, thorium, etc., since the round will undergo an E=mc^2 conversion. A near lightspeed railgun round wouldn't need a warhead.

* Eve tech can mass produce anti-matter rail guns rounds thus implying that Eve can mass produce anti-matter. Yet, despite how uber anti-matter is, non-anti-matter rounds are still used, such as lead...

Ergo, Eve railguns don't operate the same way as real world railguns, nor do they appear to use anything remotely following real world physics. You wasted your time with the math.

Personally, I think Eve guns simply open a warp tunnel to the target and do damage via some kind of subspace manipulation (i.e. they teleport a dimensional 'bomb' into the target's space.) It would explain the instant travel time of all gun rounds, the limited range, the odd ammo types, etc..


tl;dr - Eve's physics are even more nonsensical then Star Trek's.

* small lead hybrid ammo - volume 0.005 m3, mass: 0kg

yeah, that's why I went and properly calculated volume and mass.


* the round isn't solid lead: "a shell of titanium and a core of lead atoms suspended in a plasma state. Railguns launch the shell directly"

I seem to have missed this part. but it would still have much of the energy since it's P?=M/2*V² (I'm not sure if it's power or energy)


* the round is limited to 250 km. Something moving at any appreciable fraction of the speed of light wouldn't be limited to 250km.

that's the accuracy of the round, not the specified max range.


* Eve ship bounce off of objects, i.e. they're immune to kinetic damage from direct impacts. Therefore Eve railguns probably don't rely on direct kinetic energy to cause damage.

then why is it that it's counted as kinetic damage?


* A 150mm eve railgun uses 3.34GJ per shot and a lead round somehow magically reduces that to 1.67GJ of energy. Thus the amount of energy available to accelerate the rounds can't exceed 1.67GJ, which limits the max direct strike kinetic damage possible.

to see a good depiction of the breaking of the laws of conservation of energy, take a look at remote energy transfers.


* The type of railgun round magically affects range, capacitor usage, etc..

as well as the type of railgun round since they are different sized barrels but use the same ammo.


* If the railgun round is firing at any appreciable fraction of the speed of light, you don't need a warhead, such as anti-matter, lead, thorium, etc., since the round will undergo an E=mc^2 conversion. A near lightspeed railgun round wouldn't need a warhead.

yes, but they are instantanious, and it would seem that in this thread we are taking into account the effect of game limitations to make it work. so the weapons fire at the speed of light or near enough to it. and I'm aware how much kinetic energy something going that fast would have. a pin going that fast could probably do more damage to something than a WW2 battleships guns.


* Eve tech can mass produce anti-matter rail guns rounds thus implying that Eve can mass produce anti-matter. Yet, despite how uber anti-matter is, non-anti-matter rounds are still used, such as lead...

it is actually very popular, it's just not all they use. could be containment issues.


Ergo, Eve railguns don't operate the same way as real world railguns, nor do they appear to use anything remotely following real world physics. You wasted your time with the math.

Personally, I think Eve guns simply open a warp tunnel to the target and do damage via some kind of subspace manipulation (i.e. they teleport a dimensional 'bomb' into the target's space.) It would explain the instant travel time of all gun rounds, the limited range, the odd ammo types, etc...


to note after all this, I do agree that eve physics is hopelessly broken, but I'm *trying* to make sense of it to compare to the real world to give a little easier comparison of damage and damage mitigation systems.

You just can't see them because you're wearing those stupid goggles

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