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IVY League: A scrubs guide to griefing

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Naginata Rios
Game.Theory
GameTheory
#41 - 2012-09-18 04:10:26 UTC
Astroniomix wrote:
Naginata Rios wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:
If they are really this much of a problem.... couldn't you just permablob them into a station or something?



umm cuz we arenrt station huggers? we are small gang pvpers

You don't need to station hug to get camped into a station. But the point I was trying to get across is that if they can't form up a reasonably sized fleet with a half decent FC and kill a few of you, then it's their own damn fault.

Honestly they could nearly complettely deny you the ability to undock without exploding through sheer numbers if they actually tried a little.



yes you are right, they have the ability to shut us down without lifting a finger, but that would require tactics and planing, which eve uni lack.

they would rather cry for help on forums because they dont want to think, they just want to blob. And this is why people like us need to dec them.

We dont want to kill eve uni, hell i give them respect for taking the job of training new players, that **** is hard. But eve uni has become "different". And their teachings are killing pvp.

we are here to guide them in the right direction, they are going to have to use their brains to counter us, i dont think that we are asking for much
fpshacker
Alpha Republic - Transcenders of Space and Time
Solyaris Chtonium
#42 - 2012-09-18 05:28:13 UTC
Lets not mince words here m8s. Mentally assured destruction is an awful corp. Its a complete logical fallacy to believe they can train scrubs in eve uni to pvp. This would imply that u mad themselves knows how to pvp.

I have more solo kills then their whole corp has kills.

lol u mad?
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-09-18 05:32:28 UTC
Naginata Rios wrote:
they dont want to think, they just want to blob.

From what I saw in my vacation in hek they didn't even want to blob.
Fogg
Dark-Force
#44 - 2012-09-18 05:33:58 UTC
I don't normally post on the forums over ingame drama, but I would like to say I fully endorse this product and or service. Knowing UMAD personally, as they were in our alliance, I will say that they are very good at highsec warfare (even with the problems highsec has) and most of the Umad guys are extremely rich.

Anyone looking for a uphill fight, I highly recommend deccing UMAD, they are not to be underestimated, especially with bao and some ex godsquad guys around.

As for EVE UNI, yes, I agree with the OP's sentiment that perma decing noobs is lame, but to each their own.

Best of luck to both sides, may the greatest warrior win! Evil
GrimReaperzx
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2012-09-18 05:39:14 UTC
Rich??? Im soo poor i cant even afford rifters
Naginata Rios
Game.Theory
GameTheory
#46 - 2012-09-18 05:51:52 UTC
fpshacker wrote:
Lets not mince words here m8s. Mentally assured destruction is an awful corp. Its a complete logical fallacy to believe they can train scrubs in eve uni to pvp. This would imply that u mad themselves knows how to pvp.

I have more solo kills then their whole corp has kills.

lol u mad?



1v1 one of our guys, off station
fpshacker
Alpha Republic - Transcenders of Space and Time
Solyaris Chtonium
#47 - 2012-09-18 06:12:42 UTC
Naginata Rios wrote:
fpshacker wrote:
Lets not mince words here m8s. Mentally assured destruction is an awful corp. Its a complete logical fallacy to believe they can train scrubs in eve uni to pvp. This would imply that u mad themselves knows how to pvp.

I have more solo kills then their whole corp has kills.

lol u mad?



1v1 one of our guys, off station



Off station? y0 **** just got real, this high sec scrub wants to fight ~off station~

Sorry but I don't go to high sec. Being as I am a 1337 next level gamer; I have alts that do high sec stuff for me. This prevents my main from turning gay as a result of being in high sec.

Maybe we can do this in 0.0? I realize this probably won't happen. It would require you to travel though space in which you can actually be shot at by anyone and you would probably die to some scrub pirates 1 jump into 0.0.

Thanks for the offer though scrub.
Solj RichPopolous
Silent Havok.
H A R D L I N E R S
#48 - 2012-09-18 06:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Solj RichPopolous
fpshacker wrote:
Naginata Rios wrote:
fpshacker wrote:
Lets not mince words here m8s. Mentally assured destruction is an awful corp. Its a complete logical fallacy to believe they can train scrubs in eve uni to pvp. This would imply that u mad themselves knows how to pvp.

I have more solo kills then their whole corp has kills.

lol u mad?



1v1 one of our guys, off station



Off station? y0 **** just got real, this high sec scrub wants to fight ~off station~

Sorry but I don't go to high sec. Being as I am a 1337 next level gamer; I have alts that do high sec stuff for me. This prevents my main from turning gay as a result of being in high sec.

Maybe we can do this in 0.0? I realize this probably won't happen. It would require you to travel though space in which you can actually be shot at by anyone and you would probably die to some scrub pirates 1 jump into 0.0.

Thanks for the offer though scrub.


Confirming being a l33t next level gamer is getting a bunch of kills in null sec vs cyno frigs. That makes for solo.

Idiots are universal in EVE i've had my share everywhere in this game low high and null. The only difference in null is the bubble ability. Who cares how many MWD idiots can shoot at me. I chase after 20 man fleets of **** BCs that can't touch me. Ask EVE Uni when they try to setup actual traps and they are like oh dam a scram doesn't work what do?

Most EVE people are easy regardless of where they are. People only know basic things like approach MWD shoot. activate web scram orbit. No insight, no out thinking or actual piloting. And the so called high seccer pvpers are just peopel who do the above mentioned thing except they hug a station undock and have logi following them around with their station games. Granted I personally don't care for logi but it has its purpose in this game. Using it to play station games is ******** and boring, using it to fight an opponent that outnumbers u 4 to 1 is fun.
Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#49 - 2012-09-18 07:08:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeus Maximo
Thank you Fogg! I appreciate the kind words!


fpshacker wrote:


Off station? y0 **** just got real, this high sec scrub wants to fight ~off station~

Sorry but I don't go to high sec. Being as I am a 1337 next level gamer; I have alts that do high sec stuff for me. This prevents my main from turning gay as a result of being in high sec.

Maybe we can do this in 0.0? I realize this probably won't happen. It would require you to travel though space in which you can actually be shot at by anyone and you would probably die to some scrub pirates 1 jump into 0.0.

Thanks for the offer though scrub.


Now for you, I recognize your old alliance name. Mildly Intoxicated? I remember that from somewhere Cool

Destroying NOIR/Mildly Intoxicated

I guess we didn't go all the way to 0.0 but y'all did try and bring the caps in. Is that why you want us down there? Payback?

Anyways that didn't work out to well as you can see below.

The Fight fpshacker missed

I do see you that aren't apart of them anymore.You get kicked because you were to busy popping cyno alts in null sec? You should leave that to us so we can catch up to your greatness Roll


Fly safe lone ranger! I salute you!

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Naginata Rios
Game.Theory
GameTheory
#50 - 2012-09-18 07:17:11 UTC
naw he wont come to high sec, theres no cyno frigs here
Ferocious Fox
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#51 - 2012-09-18 07:57:47 UTC
Russell Casey wrote:
I thought the point of E-U was teaching newbies how the game works, and war decs are part of the game. A lot of newbies learn about war decs the hard way when their first dec comes because they joined a corp with no means, knowledge or interest in defending itself.



EvE Uni does not have a problem with being war dec'd, they have always welcomed it.

U-Mad is not just a war dec however, It is a six month long perma dec to grief the new player base out of this game.

It is all well and good to say "hey we are teaching them PvP, they are a training alliance they should be happy"

But...... EvE Uni is NOT just a pvp training alliance, it is a NEW PLAYER alliance that teaches all facets of the game.

EvE online is not just pvp. Here in lies the problem. Perma war dec'ing noobs is NOT teaching the day/week old noobies anything about pvp, most of them haven't completed their tutorials yet. I spent three hours in coms with EvE Uni yesterday and most of them were less than a week in the game.

How can you justify wanting to teach these people pvp when the biggest ship they can fly right now is a Reaper?

I have seen a lot of chest puffing and preaching about how somehow EvE Uni is creating the blobs of the future...

Let me flip this around for you... Their pilots have less than 3 mil sp, they can't fly much more than a frigate in most cases and if they cant run missions they can't afford much else but a free noob ship anyway...

So what is their defense against people flying Black OP/Faction battleships against them???? hmmmm let me see, oh I know...


Overwhelming numbers aka BLOB, with a great deal of ecm mixed in for good measure. Its the only option you provide for them to actually come out of this with some sort of self respect.


It's Morons like U-Mad who created the blob mentality and you continue to do so with your actions........Roll

P.S: I doubt you could teach my dog to **** in the corner of the section if you chained her to it. Blink
Solj RichPopolous
Silent Havok.
H A R D L I N E R S
#52 - 2012-09-18 08:05:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Solj RichPopolous
Ferocious Fox wrote:
Russell Casey wrote:
I thought the point of E-U was teaching newbies how the game works, and war decs are part of the game. A lot of newbies learn about war decs the hard way when their first dec comes because they joined a corp with no means, knowledge or interest in defending itself.



EvE Uni does not have a problem with being war dec'd, they have always welcomed it.

U-Mad is not just a war dec however, It is a six month long perma dec to grief the new player base out of this game.

It is all well and good to say "hey we are teaching them PvP, they are a training alliance they should be happy"

But...... EvE Uni is NOT just a pvp training alliance, it is a NEW PLAYER alliance that teaches all facets of the game.

EvE online is not just pvp. Here in lies the problem. Perma war dec'ing noobs is NOT teaching the day/week old noobies anything about pvp, most of them haven't completed their tutorials yet. I spent three hours in coms with EvE Uni yesterday and most of them were less than a week in the game.

How can you justify wanting to teach these people pvp when the biggest ship they can fly right now is a Reaper?

I have seen a lot of chest puffing and preaching about how somehow EvE Uni is creating the blobs of the future...

Let me flip this around for you... Their pilots have less than 3 mil sp, they can't fly much more than a frigate in most cases and if they cant run missions they can't afford much else but a free noob ship anyway...

So what is their defense against people flying Black OP/Faction battleships against them???? hmmmm let me see, oh I know...


Overwhelming numbers aka BLOB, with a great deal of ecm mixed in for good measure. Its the only option you provide for them to actually come out of this with some sort of self respect.


It's Morons like U-Mad who created the blob mentality and you continue to do so with your actions........Roll

P.S: I doubt you could teach my dog to **** in the corner of the section if you chained her to it. Blink


I honestly just want haxxi, stigirl, capricamper shore, kermit pental, korr'tanas, frood frooster's heads. After I slay them I'll be happy. But they are always hiding in a blob of cannon fodder. In a dual XL ASB sleipnir or maelstrom or navy scorp/raven.
Capricamper shore
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-09-18 09:06:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Capricamper shore
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Reppyk
The Black Shell
#54 - 2012-09-18 09:26:24 UTC
Ferocious Fox wrote:
EvE Uni does not have a problem with being war dec'd, they have always welcomed it.
Lie.

Ferocious Fox wrote:
U-Mad is not just a war dec however, It is a six month long perma dec to grief the new player base out of this game.
It's not "griefing". Griefing is against the EULA ; U-MAD and EVEuni are both playing the game as it should.

Ferocious Fox wrote:
Perma war dec'ing noobs is NOT teaching the day/week old noobies anything about pvp, most of them haven't completed their tutorials yet.
Oh really ?
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Applying_to_EVE_University
"Have done at least three of the tutorial and career agent mission chains."
I havent run the tutorial recently, but I think there were 4 career agents ?

Ferocious Fox wrote:
I spent three hours in coms with EvE Uni yesterday and most of them were less than a week in the game.
Judging by EVEuni's kb and the sheer number of daily recon/logistic/HAC/faction BC/T3 losses, no.
That picture was linked before :
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7761/theblobf.jpg
Nobody think anymore that "EVEuni is full of noobs in griffins". Ivy League is your average Highsec alliance, and all these people running missions made it a proper target for a wardec.

Ferocious Fox wrote:
what is their defense against people flying Black OP/Faction battleships against them???? hmmmm let me see, oh I know...
Overwhelming numbers aka BLOB, with a great deal of ecm mixed in for good measure. Its the only option you provide for them to actually come out of this with some sort of self respect.
In fact, the main defensive weapon of EVEuni is crying all over the place "what we should not get wardeced" "how we are all cute kitties" etc.
The fleets are just to keep busy the pilots.

EDIT : 5 quotes limite wwwwwww

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Reppyk
The Black Shell
#55 - 2012-09-18 09:26:36 UTC
Ferocious Fox wrote:
It's Morons like U-Mad who created the blob mentality and you continue to do so with your actions........Roll
Keep insulting them, I'm sure it's a good idea.

They want your crystal set.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#56 - 2012-09-18 09:47:05 UTC
Ferocious Fox wrote:
But...... EvE Uni is NOT just a pvp training alliance, it is a NEW PLAYER alliance that teaches all facets of the game.

EvE online is not just pvp. Here in lies the problem. Perma war dec'ing noobs is NOT teaching the day/week old noobies anything about pvp, most of them haven't completed their tutorials yet. I spent three hours in coms with EvE Uni yesterday and most of them were less than a week in the game.



I missed the part where EVE-Uni was declared protected as a rookie system.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

Solj RichPopolous
Silent Havok.
H A R D L I N E R S
#57 - 2012-09-18 09:53:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Solj RichPopolous
Capricamper shore wrote:
I honestly just want haxxi, stigirl, capricamper shore, kermit pental, korr'tanas, frood frooster's heads. After I slay them I'll be happy. But they are always hiding in a blob of cannon fodder. In a dual XL ASB sleipnir or maelstrom or navy scorp/raven.[/quote]

Erm http://killfeed.eveuniversity.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=44836

Also as i recall last time I fought you, you outnumbered us and still lost
[/quote]

=)))))))) u mean after u called that blob to come help u? the one that hand 1 jammer for each combat ship we had? and your raven got away with less than half armor after loosing 1 earlier as u showed in the provided link above. and after we went and reshipped you all high tailed it back to low sec?
feihcsiM
THE B0YS
#58 - 2012-09-18 10:03:17 UTC
Capricamper shore wrote:

Erm http://killfeed.eveuniversity.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=44836

Also as i recall last time I fought you, you outnumbered us and still lost



Couldn't give a crap about either side, whatever floats your boat i guess, but a scram & web raven with no prop mod for a "low sec solo roam"? Really?

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

Sarah xCalibre
Pod Liberation Authority
#59 - 2012-09-18 10:06:21 UTC


I believe this whole thread comes down to one thing, why is Dewa Cinta's vagabond shooting rockets?
This question is probably more important then anything anyone has written in this thread so far.
  • Sarah xCalibre
Solj RichPopolous
Silent Havok.
H A R D L I N E R S
#60 - 2012-09-18 10:06:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Solj RichPopolous
Alliance of n00bs hah. Just trying to hide behind that title. This link said it all

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7761/theblobf.jpg

Offer up the pods of the leaders I called for and we will leave the n00bs alone I promise this.