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Tiger Would
Doomheim
#81 - 2012-09-16 22:14:49 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Weiland Taur wrote:
James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.

Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground, apparently has written a manifesto on how to grief industrialists and casuals, is representative of anything but sadomasochism?


hold on....a pattern emerges.....sadomasochism, not able to think up a original avatar name...hmmm

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#82 - 2012-09-16 22:21:22 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Weiland Taur wrote:
James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.

Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground and has written a manifesto on how to cause optimal grief for industrialists and casuals is representative of anything but sadomasochism?

Mars Theran wrote:
All that really means is that he is representative of a portion of the highsec player base. Not even a large portion if I'm not mistaken, given there are more people ganked than ganking last I checked.
Exactly, mere observation of demographical forum posting speaks for itself.

I tried to start my EVE career as a non "carebear" but man some people just put the ick in prick. Ugh


What James315 is doing is nothing new, he's just good at marketing an old idea and he's having some fun doing it. There is nothing to prevent you doing it to him or god forbid even setting a merc corp on him as he has now left the NPC corp and is open to wardecs.

Personally I think it's as amusing as hell, gave him some iskies and did some artwork, any player created content in hisec is a good thing.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#83 - 2012-09-16 22:21:28 UTC
Not a big fan of blogs but I read some from known players. Sometimes I don't like it sometimes I do, but information in this blog (TheMitani.com) is well written (important for not english native) and offers the opportunity to who whants to disagree to expose his own arguments, witch for me makes it an interesting blog and not exactly one sided vision/version that turns out being misinformation.

brb
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#84 - 2012-09-16 22:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Tiger Would wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Weiland Taur wrote:
James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.

Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground, apparently has written a manifesto on how to grief industrialists and casuals, is representative of anything but sadomasochism?


hold on....a pattern emerges.....sadomasochism, not able to think up a original avatar name...hmmm


Honestly it wouldn't surprise me at all if Bill O'Reilly played EVE, hell I bet Ann Coulter does too! Twisted
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#85 - 2012-09-16 22:27:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger Would
Paul Oliver wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Weiland Taur wrote:
James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.

Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground, apparently has written a manifesto on how to grief industrialists and casuals, is representative of anything but sadomasochism?


hold on....a pattern emerges.....sadomasochism, not able to think up a original avatar name...hmmm


Honestly it wouldn't surprise me at all if Bill O'Reilly played EVE, hell I bet Ann Coulter does too! Twisted



Exactly......My money would be on James 315 actually being O'Reilly....Im not sure on who would be miss Coulter....any ideas?

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#86 - 2012-09-16 22:34:41 UTC
Tiger Would wrote:
Im not sure on who would be miss Coulter....any ideas?
A few... lol
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#87 - 2012-09-16 22:35:16 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Im not sure on who would be miss Coulter....any ideas?
A few... lol


That many huh....

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#88 - 2012-09-16 22:37:45 UTC
Not that this matters to all of the Riverini alt characters and en24 sychophants, but even as a GSF memeber I prefer to get my news about what we do from themittani.com because unlike our jabber broadcasts and 2nd hand information gathered during fleets and chats, there are detailed, accurate writeups of things I missed while not being logged on and instead of having to sift through these awful forums or CAOD for alliance shakeups, it's all there and as fairly reported as is possible.

We have articles from Lazerspewpew of all people, a person that I guarantee most of GSF and the CFC at large despise. He's like el-chupacabra for anyone who likes to rat or do pve things in our space, and yet there he is writing about how he owns us all. We had an interview with the leader of NC., who we all hate pretty much and are actively destroying. Don't tell me we're biassed. You want biassed? Get your news from our jabber (we know you have spies), you want accuracy? Read the website.
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#89 - 2012-09-16 22:41:43 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
because unlike our jabber broadcasts and 2nd hand information gathered during fleets and chats, there are detailed, accurate writeups of things I missed while not being logged on and instead of having to sift through these awful forums or CAOD for alliance shakeups, it's all there and as fairly reported as is possible.




Things like...."How'd the moon get there? Who put it there?"

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
Weiland Taur
The Icarus Expedition
Solyaris Chtonium
#90 - 2012-09-16 22:53:21 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Weiland Taur wrote:
James315 lives in hisec. He ganks and extorts in hisec. He has written a novel on his views pertaining to industry in hisec. He lives, *****, lies and steals in hisec. A huge portion of hisec does the same so how is he not a representative of the the hisec pov? Wow.

Hisec is not just the afk carebear. It is not just the mission runner. This is the arrogance that makes getting any type of unified hisec behavior or goals going a complete pain in the ass.
How can you say that someone who wants to see highsec nerfed into the ground and has written a manifesto on how to cause optimal grief for industrialists and casuals is representative of anything but sadomasochism?

Mars Theran wrote:
All that really means is that he is representative of a portion of the highsec player base. Not even a large portion if I'm not mistaken, given there are more people ganked than ganking last I checked.
Exactly, mere observation of demographical forum posting speaks for itself.

I tried to start my EVE career as a non "carebear" but man some people just put the ick in prick. Ugh


This is splitting hairs here. He's a representative of the hisec voice. If you think there is another voice that needs to be heard, make it heard. I'm not saying he's right; at best he amuses me with his role-playing. It's fun but at times it is also a bit out of hand and slips into bombastic bullying. However Hisec is not just industrialists and miners. I think hisec participants have to accept that gankers, ninjas, wardeccers etc.. are all part of that family.

But I digress. The entire point of this thread was that I thought Mittani.com was a good addition to the overall voices in the metagame. The news realm in particular which has been held hostage to EN24's biased ranting as of late. Most of what I've heard in response is "gross it's a goon!" Pathetic. Overall Goons are pretty damn low on the list of threats to hisec.

Moving on.
Polly Oxford
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#91 - 2012-09-16 22:54:42 UTC
By the way: If you want to write an opinion piece on something eve related yourself you will even get paid for submitting them (if you are a mildly talented writer that is).
There is really nothing stopping you from publishing your views on tm.com and no, they will not get filtered out by our evil editors that want to push the nullsec agenda.
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#92 - 2012-09-16 23:04:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger Would
Polly Oxford wrote:

There is really nothing stopping you from publishing your views on tm.com and no, they will not get filtered out by our evil editors that want to push the nullsec agenda.


Yes there is, they can not explain the tides...or how the moon got there...

Listen very carefully..

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2012-09-16 23:23:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
There is a few people who have invested heavily into the website. They spent months working on it and need it to do well with site hits. Hence, the massive amount of alts they are using to promote the site left and right. There is also reports of admins on the site (Andski is one of them I believe - now you know why he is in every thread about it defending its honor) of removing comments and or IP address bans for things that are not deemed pro-CFC. Yes, yes, they advertise they are unbiased until they are called out on things. Resorting to waving away comments proclaiming the article is now an 'opinion piece'.

Does this mean that evenews24 is a better news site? Of course not. If anything they need each other. Like I mentioned in a previous thread (one started by a goon alt of course), competition is good. Will the EVE community eventually find an EVE news related website that delivers unbiased articles backed up by solid facts? Probably not.

Every news source has an agenda and this new one is no different. Even in his own words, this website was launched as an answer to someone he hates and to gain more control of the game. So if you want news, do yourself a favor; if you visit one, check the other.

Or better yet, get out there and make your own news! Cool

EDIT: Fun fact! That 'Intel Drop Box' only comes into play when it is intel on non-blues to goons. If the intel dropped has enough information on a friendly, the IP address is logged to help find hostile spies and the operation is scrapped and no intel is released on the website about the tip. Shocking I know. Lol
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#94 - 2012-09-16 23:26:02 UTC
Tiger Would wrote:
Polly Oxford wrote:

There is really nothing stopping you from publishing your views on tm.com and no, they will not get filtered out by our evil editors that want to push the nullsec agenda.


Yes there is, they can not explain the tides...or how the moon got there...

Listen very carefully..


Is this a contest to see how many times you can get away with making the same joke?
Cede Forster
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#95 - 2012-09-16 23:38:01 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
There is a few people who have invested heavily into the website. They spent months working on it and need it to do well with site hits. Hence, the massive amount of alts they are using to promote the site left and right. There is also reports of admins on the site (Andski is one of them I believe - now you know why he is in every thread about it defending its honor) of removing comments and or IP address bans for things that are not deemed pro-CFC. Yes, yes, they advertise they are unbiased until they are called out on things. Resorting to waving away comments proclaiming the article is now an 'opinion piece'.

Does this mean that evenews24 is a better news site? Of course not. If anything they need each other. Like I mentioned in a previous thread (one started by a goon alt of course), competition is good. Will the EVE community eventually find an EVE news related website that delivers unbiased articles backed up by solid facts? Probably not.

Every news source has an agenda and this new one is no different. Even in his own words, this website was launched as an answer to someone he hates and to gain more control of the game. So if you want news, do yourself a favor; if you visit one, check the other.

Or better yet, get out there and make your own news! Cool

EDIT: Fun fact! That 'Intel Drop Box' only comes into play when it is intel on non-blues to goons. If the intel dropped has enough information on a friendly, the IP address is logged to help find hostile spies and the operation is scrapped and no intel is released on the website about the tip. Shocking I know. Lol


and the shopkeeper replied: "i am sorry, somebody bought all our tinfoil just yesterday"
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#96 - 2012-09-16 23:47:47 UTC
Cede Forster wrote:


and the shopkeeper replied: "i am sorry, somebody bought all our tinfoil just yesterday"




sorry that was me, I'm trying to corner the market on shiny headgear.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#97 - 2012-09-17 00:13:01 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Cede Forster wrote:


and the shopkeeper replied: "i am sorry, somebody bought all our tinfoil just yesterday"




sorry that was me, I'm trying to corner the market on shiny headgear.
Duuude, if you're ever outta tinfoil, just put a pie plate on your head, it works just as good!
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#98 - 2012-09-17 00:20:23 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Polly Oxford wrote:

There is really nothing stopping you from publishing your views on tm.com and no, they will not get filtered out by our evil editors that want to push the nullsec agenda.


Yes there is, they can not explain the tides...or how the moon got there...

Listen very carefully..


Is this a contest to see how many times you can get away with making the same joke?


Nope.

Just providing context to repetitive claims...

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#99 - 2012-09-17 00:21:20 UTC
Tiger Would wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Polly Oxford wrote:

There is really nothing stopping you from publishing your views on tm.com and no, they will not get filtered out by our evil editors that want to push the nullsec agenda.


Yes there is, they can not explain the tides...or how the moon got there...

Listen very carefully..


Is this a contest to see how many times you can get away with making the same joke?


Nope.

Just providing context to repetitive claims...


I love you baby but you're wrong.
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-09-17 00:26:22 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Polly Oxford wrote:

There is really nothing stopping you from publishing your views on tm.com and no, they will not get filtered out by our evil editors that want to push the nullsec agenda.


Yes there is, they can not explain the tides...or how the moon got there...

Listen very carefully..


Is this a contest to see how many times you can get away with making the same joke?


Nope.

Just providing context to repetitive claims...


I love you baby but you're wrong.


Thats just your mind playing tricks on you or having an oversized latency.
Don't worry, we all have atleast 2 x 85ms latency when communicating.

It just got a bit out of hand in this particular communication.

Love you to, but please no more nonsens about moongods....ok?

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would