These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

How many people would still play if PLEX was removed from the game
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2012-09-16 14:26:19 UTC
I would quit Eve if I had to pay RL cash monthly.

Also, anyone who thinks CCP lose income due to plex is an imbecile of the highest order. Also (2) anyone who thinks that plex made a difference to Eve is equally an imbecile since you have always been able to buy GTCs for isk. I remember when I could buy 90 days gtc for 380 million isk.

So. There you have it, all the facts you will ever need about plex, now put this to sleep for good.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
leoplusma
Delfus Inc.
#62 - 2012-09-16 14:53:46 UTC
plex or not,
eve with no weed? wtf r u talkin about - lolol

...but its sad to realise how some people think the whole world
is like their backyard, judging by their own living, the lifes of others.

"go find a job", "dont play the game if u cant afford it", "stop smokin ****"

jezaz, WTF w u ppl?

as for the question, i would still play the months i could afford it. right now
i either pay sub or use plex depending if i can spent those 15 euros. and yes,
i do work, in 2 jobs and i am not able every month to spend those euros.
i have only 1 account, ofc.

and btw, if ccp was losing money from plex, then the plex would never
had invented in the first place.

fly safe

leo
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#63 - 2012-09-16 15:11:12 UTC
I'd keep playing. I like supporting a company I like.

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#64 - 2012-09-16 16:34:28 UTC
well lets not forget why ccp introduced ingame plex, to fight RMT. If they remove it RMTérs are going to rejoice since theyre customer base starts growing again.

Fact is, some people just have ability to generate more isk then they know what to do with. No, im not one of those people, i suck at isk accumulation... And since plex is item that generates real world income to ccp when sold first time, theres really no reason to remove it.

Those that can play by isk, good for them. That isk is what keeps economy going. Similar to highsec pos charters sort of...

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#65 - 2012-09-16 16:36:51 UTC
i would plex is good but not that good.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#66 - 2012-09-16 16:37:51 UTC
getting rid of plex and giving us a true sandbox again? Yea.. I'd most certainly still play Cool
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#67 - 2012-09-16 16:42:47 UTC
Ashera Yune wrote:
Let say that CCP decided that PLEX was a hassle for them to deal with since owing unused game time made the vulture investors unhappy.

Let say all PLEX was wiped out and the owners would be given game time in replace.

In order to play again, you will like everyone else pay a subscription fee, just like WOW.

Would you still be playing? Would you have as many accounts as you currently have?


Yes, I would have as many accounts. I actually pay money for them. Using PLEX to support an account in my mind is counter productive. So you are going to subscribe to a game just so you can spend time in game grinding isk to pay for the game? Pick the annual payment, save money on the yearly fee, and just go do what suits you...
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#68 - 2012-09-16 16:46:22 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
getting rid of plex and giving us a true sandbox again? Yea.. I'd most certainly still play Cool



I keep seeing this claim made but I never see a substantive explanation as to how PLEX ruined the game.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#69 - 2012-09-16 16:50:29 UTC
Shizuken wrote:



I keep seeing this claim made but I never see a substantive explanation as to how PLEX ruined the game.


I never said anything about "ruining"... keep the straw mans coming though.
Roderick Grey
Koenigsbergers
#70 - 2012-09-16 16:53:28 UTC
I've done and still do both depending on my current assets in and out of game. But if they removed plex then I'd expect that they hired alot more staff with the extra income and bring EvE up to a standard where it deserves that kind of subscription. Otherwise I'll just play Eve the way it's meant to be played, via the meta game.

“We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.” - Special needs division of Fcon.
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#71 - 2012-09-16 17:02:55 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Shizuken wrote:



I keep seeing this claim made but I never see a substantive explanation as to how PLEX ruined the game.


I never said anything about "ruining"... keep the straw mans coming though.


Ok, I admit I paraphrazed your statement. But please, go ahead and explain what you meant then. How did the PLEX make eve not a true sandbox, and how would its removal make eve a "true" sandbox again?
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#72 - 2012-09-16 17:19:11 UTC
I have a job.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#73 - 2012-09-16 17:22:59 UTC  |  Edited by: John Ratcliffe
Malka Badi'a wrote:
Doc Severide wrote:
I pay 5 accounts once a year. Cash only. I believe CCP should actually get paid for their hard work...


Alright, fish ****. Let's get something straight.

Buying a PLEX:$19.00 per month, or the standard special of $209.94 for 12 plexes.
Subscribing:$14.95 per month, or the standard special of $131.40 for 12 months.

The people who buy the PLEX from CCP give them $78.54 more per year than you ever will, which means that the people who buy those PLEX are making sure CCP get paid more for their hard work than your illogical butterlips ever could.

Citations:

  1. https://secure.eveonline.com/UpdateSubscriptionInterval.aspx
  2. https://secure.eveonline.com/PLEX/ (limited special running right now, still more expensive than a subscription)


Except if you have any sense you'd never buy PLEX from CCP at all, but buy PLEX or ISK from an online supplier for pretty much half price.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#74 - 2012-09-16 17:48:12 UTC
But no, not over the removal of PLEX. But if we had a return of prohibition in my nation, I'd possibly quit. P

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#75 - 2012-09-16 18:37:23 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Ashera Yune wrote:
Let say that CCP decided that PLEX was a hassle for them to deal with since owing unused game time made the vulture investors unhappy.

Let say all PLEX was wiped out and the owners would be given game time in replace.

In order to play again, you will like everyone else pay a subscription fee, just like WOW.

Would you still be playing? Would you have as many accounts as you currently have?


Yes, I would have as many accounts. I actually pay money for them. Using PLEX to support an account in my mind is counter productive. So you are going to subscribe to a game just so you can spend time in game grinding isk to pay for the game? Pick the annual payment, save money on the yearly fee, and just go do what suits you...


I agree if your whole purpose is to grind enough isk to plex your account your playing the game for a reason, I don't see enjoyable. And I'm sure you super elite eveleetists cant plex and still enjoy the game. But, most of us peons can't do that.

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Ryhss
#76 - 2012-09-16 18:45:20 UTC
Chribba couldn't pay for his 14 alts if there were no PLEX....

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"
Minotaur0
Doomheim
#77 - 2012-09-16 18:46:59 UTC
I would quit for sure.
flakeys
Doomheim
#78 - 2012-09-16 18:56:47 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
I'll have to admit i'd be gone in a blink


Shizuken wrote:
[quote=Ashera Yune] Using PLEX to support an account in my mind is counter productive. So you are going to subscribe to a game just so you can spend time in game grinding isk to pay for the game? Pick the annual payment, save money on the yearly fee, and just go do what suits you...


Depends on wich way and how fast you can ''grind'' that isk . In my case and i think i speak for most traders or like me ex-traders making a plex a month is not more then a days work at most.And we all know the incursion/faction/xomplex runners will take no more then a few days at most ..

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Doomheim
#79 - 2012-09-16 19:08:52 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
getting rid of plex and giving us a true sandbox again? Yea.. I'd most certainly still play Cool


You'd pay on a hacked server because tranquility would go down when CCP couldn't pay the bill.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#80 - 2012-09-16 19:50:08 UTC
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
getting rid of plex and giving us a true sandbox again? Yea.. I'd most certainly still play Cool


You'd pay on a hacked server because tranquility would go down when CCP couldn't pay the bill.
There would be layoffs, possibly, but EVE has existed with far less active accounts than it does today.
Not saying I agree with any such removal of PLEX, it's a silly thought. Though ideas of shutting down over PLEX removal is just as erroneous.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12