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An Eve Memorial: The Ring of Fire

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Morphisat
Millard Innovation Inc
#41 - 2012-09-14 21:57:25 UTC
Rixx Javix wrote:
The graphic over on my blog is supposed to represent a black hole devouring a star, hence the "ring of fire" surrounding it. Just fyi. Sorry, couldn't post graphics with the post here.


Ah now I get it, thanks :).
Xavier Kaine
Crye Leike Executive
#42 - 2012-09-14 22:08:56 UTC
Support! Love the idea of it being the antithesis of the Eve Gate. Once you approach the object it could broadcast cryptic messages, being ships/names of the fallen from the void, working as a list or plaque.
Cecil Arongo
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#43 - 2012-09-14 22:40:20 UTC
Supported. This is the best idea so far... RIP Sean, and any others who have selflessly made the ultimate sacrifice.

This is for all you new people: I have one rule. Everyone fights, no one quits. If you dont do your job I will shoot you myself. DO YOU GET ME?
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-09-14 22:50:18 UTC
If you make a place to celebrate someone or a group of people, there will be people who go there to desecrate it. Either via can art or other actions like shooting it and even camping the system to kill those who go to visit.

I wish I could honestly say something like that would never happen, but I'm a realist and this is EVE. Maybe if such a place could be visited via the same mechanic for the ship viewer then it would be good. I just don't want to present an opportunity for jerks to go for the low blow.

So far my personal favorite idea has been a Vile Rate quote in the diplo skill book description.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#45 - 2012-09-14 23:14:18 UTC
Perhaps we can leave out the names and have it as a general memorial to the fallen. The story of it's inception would be passed along orally, perhaps giving it a bit more mystique and filling the un-informed player with a bit more awe:

"What is this massive black hole thing at the end of the galaxy?"
"Ah, you adorable wide-eyed newbro, let me tell you the story of Vile Rat."



Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-09-14 23:23:16 UTC
Love this idea, even as I wonder how the process would work.

But hey... EVE is real, yes?

Occasionally plays sober
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#47 - 2012-09-14 23:27:52 UTC
sounds like a good idea, clearing out the idiots who think disrespecting the dead is somehow cool would make a nice evenings flying for those so inclined.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

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Cozmik R5
Chez Stan
#48 - 2012-09-14 23:53:50 UTC
Idea supported. As with the "Vaga frills" event, Rixx wins.

o7

Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-09-15 00:14:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Welsige
OP, I support entirelly this idea.

As for those wondering why so much fuss about V.R'.s death, its not because he's a Goon. He did for this game way more 99% of any of us ever did or can hope to do in the future, hes significant to our universe, so yeah, he owns and deserve respect.

So let the massive black hole, the devourer of souls be created, were all EVE player's souls are consumed once we expire and no further cloning is possible.

Make it of value to all player base, representative of all our fallen comrades, regardless of allegiance, language or religion.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]
Lee Longpigmen
Molecular Saving Group
#50 - 2012-09-15 00:14:55 UTC
The person who died was a member and from what I have heard a good one to his fellow corp and alliance mates. Many of us have had friends die who were good people and who where members of EVE. As for my self I agree with the ring of fire to include all our friends who will never again ship up , fit up and answer the Call To Arms. To this mans friends I offer my sympathy for his lose and respect for being one of us. Give us the "Ring of Fire"!
Citika
Presumed Ignorant
Cytrite Research Solutions
#51 - 2012-09-15 00:30:23 UTC
I would put my vote behind this idea.
DWEnvision
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-09-15 00:43:20 UTC
I would support this...
Planetary Genocide
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2012-09-15 00:59:27 UTC
Rixx Javix wrote:
Originally posted on Eveoganda:


The Eve community has responded amazingly well to this week's horrible tragedy. I have honestly never been prouder of my own association with Eve Online, CCP and my fellow pilots. What happened in Libya is nothing short of horrible and tragic and pointless violence. But, whatever the real world implications may be, we all have a virtual universe to live in.

So, what now?

There have already been calls to memorialize VR in-game and I wholeheartedly support those calls. The ideas have varied from a perma-cyno in Jita to a Titan wreck in a meaningful zero space system. Again, these are all good ideas. And I would support them. But, I wonder.

With a global player-base and around half-a-million players, the tragedy of this week seems almost inevitable. Something like this had to happen eventually. And as Eve continues to get longer in the tooth, such a tragedy is invariably going to happen again. And again. And again. This is in no way intended to take away from what happened this week, but it will happen again. For those of you young enough not to notice, we are all going to die someday.

What I'm driving at here is nothing short of a permanent massive memorial to the fallen in-game. Something that fits within the context of Eve, the universe, lore, and conventional mechanics. If Capsuleers are the Gods of New Eden, then I think they deserve a God-like Memorial of significance. We humans, and I suspect Capsuleers as well, have historically erected large scale memorial systems to honor those that have passed away before us. I suspect that the future will not be all that different. Especially when it is an immortal Capsuleer that has passed into the great mystery.

To my mind, nothing symbolizes the "great mystery" in New Eden more than the Eve Gate. It is where our ancestors came from and beyond which is nothing more than the great unknown.

What I am suggesting is the creation of the opposite. A Great Ring of Fire on the opposite end of the universe from the Eve Gate. A dark hole that symbolizes the place where we go after death. The great beyond.

A place where the mechanic exists to immortalize those Capsuleers of distinction that have left us forever. Not those that un-sub never to return, but those that have tied their lives in a significant way to our universe and that we know have left real life as well. A hall of heroes if you will, a Hall of Fame, a grand memorial to the fallen.

I suggest inclusion in such a memorial would require action from the elected body of the CSM with final approval given by CCP. The details seem easy enough to imagine.

Sean's passing has, I suspect, left us all feeling a little mortal this week. I know it has made me feel the years pilling on. Perhaps this is one way to give something special back to Sean and the others that will eventually take his side, on the other side.

It is only another suggestion. As I said before, I'd support any memorial that happens in his honor. As always, I tend to think things through to their logical conclusion and how it impacts the game in the bigger picture.

Maybe now is not the time. But, then again, maybe now is the perfect time.

Your thoughts?





+1. "Show info" can have a list of those who have passed before us, as well. Either real name or in-game name, probably in-game name.
Bane Loppknow
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2012-09-15 01:03:34 UTC
I like this idea.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-09-15 01:13:31 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
So far my personal favorite idea has been a Vile Rate quote in the diplo skill book description.


Not empty quoting.
Somani MacLeod
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-09-15 01:24:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Somani MacLeod
it's a nice thought but i honestly don't really like or appreciate the idea.

yes, his death was tragic, yes he was famous and somewhat important to the game for the last few years. maybe name a space station after him or add a special thank you into the credits. erecting a monument in game to him is a bit much in my mind. you're downplaying everybody else, and alot of people who play both new and old don't even know who he is or had ANY interaction with him at all.... to be honest i'm only writing this after spending a half hour googling the guy >.>

if we are going to erect a monument to him then i'd request it be a universal monument to everybody, something to aim for, something someday I myself might be a part of. i.e. play the game for so many years, control a planet for this long, control a solar system? i don't know, something that would take 1+ years to achieve but that if given enough effort can be achieved by just about anybody.

nobody likes feeling inferior and putting a single person on an un-obtainable pedestal posthumously, especially something as big as what you're proposing can make alot of people feel rather inferior, especially doing it in a videogame. i've never heard or seen any type of "in game" monument to a real world individual before that wasn't a simulator (like the statue of liberty in a flight simulator )
at the very least have the decency to explain it with canon storyline? write a book about vile rats exploits in game or something like that of tibus heth for example.
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2012-09-15 01:26:25 UTC
The discussion at hand here is one of installing a permanent memorial in EVE, please stick to that topic in future - ISD Type40.





EDIT: Troll posts, off topic posts and derailing posts removed.

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Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-09-15 01:52:52 UTC
Somani MacLeod wrote:

if we are going to erect a monument to him then i'd request it be a universal monument to everybody, something to aim for, something someday I myself might be a part of..



I fi am to believe you really read this thread, you might now realize thats exactly what we are asking for.

This tragedy is the spark, but it is aimed for the comunity as a whole.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]
Somani MacLeod
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-09-15 01:58:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Somani MacLeod
Welsige wrote:
Somani MacLeod wrote:

if we are going to erect a monument to him then i'd request it be a universal monument to everybody, something to aim for, something someday I myself might be a part of..



I fi am to believe you really read this thread, you might now realize thats exactly what we are asking for.

This tragedy is the spark, but it is aimed for the comunity as a whole.

i understand that is what you're seeking, sorry just want to make my opinion heard

can i perhaps suggest a monument at the eve gate? instead of a gate at the other end of the galaxy.
"returning to where you came" kind of thing
Vulix
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-09-15 02:08:48 UTC
I would suppoort this idea if it silently honored all parished capsuleers and not just one guy. There have been plenty of great people who have played this game and passed; although VR's death was tragic, it would be **** to ignore everyone else we have played with in the past