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Isn't it about time suicide ganking was fixed? (Not removed, just made harder).

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#41 - 2011-10-15 16:35:29 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

Defending yourselves is clearly a stupid thing to have to do in a pvp game.

Yes that Escort is really gonna help you when you get alpha'd Roll



So dont let them shoot youRoll
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2011-10-15 16:37:28 UTC
Zerra Zeta wrote:
k, just don't change 'afk' cloaking (it's a viable tactic), easy suicide ganking is sort of silly.... actually I wonder if the goons are working with hellmar


Er, can you try that again with sentences? I think you're saying we like AFK cloaking (we -- or at least I -- don't), but I don't want to get all ranty only to hear you say "er, that's what I meant" after the fact.

That's considered a FAUX PAS, after all.
Zerra Zeta
Doomheim
#43 - 2011-10-15 16:39:04 UTC
Xython wrote:
Zerra Zeta wrote:
k, just don't change 'afk' cloaking (it's a viable tactic), easy suicide ganking is sort of silly.... actually I wonder if the goons are working with hellmar


Er, can you try that again with sentences? I think you're saying we like AFK cloaking (we -- or at least I -- don't), but I don't want to get all ranty only to hear you say "er, that's what I meant" after the fact.

That's considered a FAUX PAS, after all.


I don't, I mean I could find one. An explanation I mean.
Alara IonStorm
#44 - 2011-10-15 16:39:11 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

So dont let them shoot youRoll

So Grav Belts, D-Scan, Watch Lists and such.

Great but I already know that and was advising people do do that last Hulkageddon.

But what does that have to do with the aforementioned fail tactics you were quoting me on.

Oh is this that thing where your argument falls apart so you bring up a different point that makes sense and try to bait me into disagreeing.

It was a nice try.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#45 - 2011-10-15 16:39:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
I think it's time for another geddon, specifically targeting the OP :)

Anyway, Ice mining in empire will die when we get Time Dilation..

If you think mining is boring now and automatable, wait until Time Dilation comes :)

Bots will fail, Mining will take even longer and they will leave empire.

if you want to tank a miner, get a fleet booster and hardwires... otherwise... take your chance like all the rest.



To all in Empire... if you see an AFK pod in HIGHSEC, GANK IT.... remind them that high sec is NOT safe, just safer.

I now declare this weekend,... Hug a highsec pod weekend.


If you buff CONCORD, we will just bring even more hell down on empire than you currently see today.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2011-10-15 16:41:07 UTC
Ogi Talvanen wrote:
Watch local. Be aligned. Dont afk. Use warp core stabilizer. Tank ship.


Give this man a prize, he can now be king of the potato people.

Er, I mean pubbies. Pubbies.

Seriously, this isn't HARD.

Ogi -- you did forget the most important part:

Don't mine Ice in Gallente Space. We will find you. We will kill you. We will laugh at your crappy threads crying about it. Go mine elsewhere.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2011-10-15 16:42:41 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
David Cedarbridge wrote:

Claiming that common sense tactics don't make sense "in current game mechanics": Check

Escorts do not help with Alpha Mechanics.
This strawman doesn't work. If you don't know how to warp out of danger or don't know how to align out to make that warping possible then you run the same risk as anyone else does of losing their ship. At least, you run the same level of risk as the rest of those players who have not learned these basic skills. And yes, this will protect you from getting alpha'd assuming you're actually present at your computer and paying attention to what is going on around you. There are a multitude of things that can be done to prevent you from losing your ship. Whining on the forums isn't one of them and I'm not here to teach you. I'm not your mother.

David Cedarbridge wrote:

Bonus Points: Implying that somebody is guilty of something based only on rumors and heresay: Check
I am a pretty massive hypocrite
You said it, not me.
[quote=David Cedarbridge]
The Results: Definitely your average NPC corp member posting about those big bad goonies.

I never liked that movie.

Poor taste in movies detected
Alara IonStorm
#48 - 2011-10-15 16:43:56 UTC
Miilla wrote:
I think it's time for another geddon, specifically targeting the OP :)

Oh me, me too. I do not mine so that might be a problem but I do have a shiny new Noctis with no tank that I use some times.

I am poor cause I just re-subbed and spent all my PvP monies on a Maelstrom and the above Noctis to re-earn it.

Anyway level 4's are boring so please consider me when looking for your next victim.
Alara IonStorm
#49 - 2011-10-15 16:47:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
David Cedarbridge wrote:

I'm not your mother.

Hah while you were vomiting on this thread I grabbed a sample and sent it to the lab.

We will see if you are telling the truth.
Avid Bumhumper
Beekeepers Anonymous
#50 - 2011-10-15 16:47:50 UTC
Sorry, while not a big fan of miner gankers, it's working as intended.

If they are willing to take the sec hit, and the ship loss, then that's their issue.
Only additional item that would make sense from a game standpoint is Concord impounding the insurance payout as a fine. If people really want to gank, that wouldn't be much of a deterrent.



My Tinfoil hat has been sugically implanted, so no,it is not for sale.....
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2011-10-15 16:52:19 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

So dont let them shoot youRoll

So Grav Belts, D-Scan, Watch Lists and such.

Great but I already know that and was advising people do do that last Hulkageddon.

But what does that have to do with the aforementioned fail tactics you were quoting me on.

Oh is this that thing where your argument falls apart so you bring up a different point that makes sense and try to bait me into disagreeing.

It was a nice try.


There ate plently of tools to avoid getting killed. If you are too daft to use them then you deserve every bad thing that happens to you.
Thomas Abernathy
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#52 - 2011-10-15 16:53:22 UTC
Avid Bumhumper wrote:
Sorry, while not a big fan of miner gankers, it's working as intended.

If they are willing to take the sec hit, and the ship loss, then that's their issue.
Only additional item that would make sense from a game standpoint is Concord impounding the insurance payout as a fine. If people really want to gank, that wouldn't be much of a deterrent.





Perhaps this might be a good change...Concord takes a percentage of the Insurance payout based on the characters sec status. Wouldn't stop me from ganking, but might make it a bit more selective.

"Fighting CCD since 2139"
Alara IonStorm
#53 - 2011-10-15 16:55:06 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

There ate plently of tools to avoid getting killed. If you are too daft to use them then you deserve every bad thing that happens to you.

How do you use them if you ate them?
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2011-10-15 17:02:08 UTC
yes tolittle/no insurance to gankers
no to increase response time.
Ogi Talvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#55 - 2011-10-15 17:22:26 UTC
Xython wrote:

Ogi -- you did forget the most important part:


I dont think i need to tell them that mining with a bunch of gankers near you is a big nono. Or maybe i do?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#56 - 2011-10-15 17:26:44 UTC
Ogi Talvanen wrote:
I dont think i need to tell them that mining with a bunch of gankers near you is a big nono. Or maybe i do?
Considering the level of smarts that is often displayed in these situations, you probably do… unfortunately. Ugh
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#57 - 2011-10-15 17:56:44 UTC
Hows this for a buff for miners. Change ECM Bursts so they don't get you concorded, and give them that extra chance to run.

Make them highslots tho, so they have to sacrifice a miner to fit one Bear

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Uskos
New Ceres Economics and Logsitcs
#58 - 2011-10-15 18:05:12 UTC
The only thing that needs to be changed is the fact that the insurance is still payed out for them. Otherwise all is okay.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#59 - 2011-10-15 18:22:12 UTC
Dont remove ganking just ban GSF

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2011-10-15 18:25:43 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Dont remove ganking just ban GSF


Show me on the doll where the bees stung you.