Science & Industry

Hey guys!

So just wonderin does anyone have a link to a basic pos setup or some type info like that? I'm just looking to setup a pos for copying and material research, that's it. Was told medium caldari tower is the way to go. But wut's a decent defense setup with that tower?

Thx guys

~green

Also, search the forums for Dickstar, as that's a much more boring/difficult target for J. Random Wardeccer. Old video showing setting up a hedgehog arrangement around a POS.

One way of dealing with it in high sec would be to set up a small tower, 1 or 2 mobile labs and then keep the blueprints in an NPC station in that system and do the research (with Scientific Networking skill) remotely. When wardecced, you have 24 hours to take down the tower and put it away until the wardeccers get bored (and stop paying the Concord fee). With SN, only copies end up in the POS labs, so if you're away for an extended period, they'll be disappointed.

In high sec, stick to medium (with a few small ones for the speed-tankers) autocannon/hybrid arrays. Large ones are intended for capital ships, which you won't see in high sec outside of Jita (there was a Moros flying around there last night, most likely due to a reimbursement snafu as usual). My advice is to only put up a few large ones if you have Starbase Defense Management skill (when someone says "POS gunner", this is what they mean).

Some old threads:
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/21245-1/page/1
http://eve-search.com/thread/817184-0
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=817184
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109263
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=588918
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134086

Source

Tool for planning:
http://eve.1019.net/pos/index.php

I'm assuming that you mean a hisec tower.

First, your corp will need unmodified standings of at least 5.0 with the faction whose space you want to set your tower up in. For .5 systems, you standings of >= 5.0; in .6 systems >= 6.0; and so on.

Second, you need starbase charters from the faction whose space you have set your POS up in. Your POS will consume 1 charter per hour.

Third, you need to plan for fuel. A small tower consumes 10 fuel blocks per hour; a medium consumes 20. At current Jita prices, that's roughly 80M ISK per month in fuel for a small tower, and 160M ISK per month for a medium. Make sure you have the fuel stockpiled *before* you set up your tower. (And this includes stront for the stront bay.) Don't plan to just "roll your own" by ice mining and PI: unless you're in a fairly large corp, making your own fuel blocks is rarely a cost-effective solution.

Fourth, you need to find an open moon in whatever system you plan to set up your POS in. This is sometimes easier said than done, especially in densely populated areas.

YMMV, but apart from shield hardeners I wouldn't bother setting up defenses on a small tower. In hisec you get 24 hours after a wardec to respond, so you can just pull the tower down if you get dec'd. If the attackers want a small tower dead, it's dead. It's not worth setting up a lot of defenses on it, especially in hisec.

A low sec research POS you will want a large if you can swing it. Dreads can jump into low sec which makes POS bashing small and medium towers far less boring.

In high sec a small caldari can run 3 labs which will take a few characters to make full use of. Had a small research POS in high sec for almost 2 years without a single war dec. very safe as high sec POS bashing, even small towers is tedious at best.

In low sec anything smaller than a large POS is a big risk, unless you don't keep any assets in the POS. ME/PE research out of a station corp hanger for example. Than if the POS gets popped you just throw up another. fit what ever labs you can make use of and fill the rest with hardeners and ECM. Not much point in guns unless you have POS gunners to man them.

Setting up a POS in low or null is a completely different ball game than high sec.

In High sec they can not attack without first war decing you and waiting 24hrs. And then they need either a good size fleet, or a lot of time to take down even a small tower. Defenses can be left offline until a war dec is received, saving CPU and PG for labs and such. Chances are during the minimum 24 hours between war dec and attack anything of value was moved out so no juicy loot.

In Low sec or Null anyone can attack any POS without warning. Defenses need to be online 23/7 and the attackers can bring caps. a few dreads can make fast work of even a large POS.

That being said however, POS bashing is still boring, and having dreads in siege mode in low sec is a big risk for little reward. unless you make your self a target or choose the wrong system to set up in you have a very good chance of being left alone. I know some players with on man/multi account corps that have run POSes in low sec for over a year without losing a single POS.

You basically have two choices. Keep the POS to a bare minimum of what you need and don't keep any assets in it. Stront is your biggest friend. If it gets attacked they need to come back at possibly an inconvenient time to finish the job. And if it does get popped you lose minimal invest. Just throw up a replacement.

other option is as others have suggested a dickstar. Large POS with as much hardeners and ECM as possible. This makes the POS a real pain and time consuming to attack. Hardeners can drastically increase your EHP and ECM will cause them to keep losing target lock dropping their DPS. There is not much point in a medium dickstar as they are still easier to take down than a completely undefended large POS.

Basically in low or null if someone wants your POS gone, no matter how you fit it, it will be gone. your best defense is location and not pissing off the locals. Even a small POS in a back water system where you have a decent relationship with the local pirates can last for years, while at the same time the most expensive dickstar can be taken down within 24 hours of it being anchored if someone doesn't want it there. Find a quite system with low PVP activity and you should be good to go. Personally I prefer the low cost approach as an expensive dickstar can look like a loot pinata to many pirates. "What is so valuable in this POS to warrant such an expensive defense"

We anchored two large in lowsec. Both were destroyed within about 2 days.

We then made a deal with the locals: all they wanted was the towers to consider them blue. We set them blue, then anchored 10 towers and were completely ignored.

Basic POS setup (hisec)

(S|M|L) Control tower as necessary (I prefer large, but that' me)
Labs, and assy arrays
2/2/1/0 shield hardeners (online) (in whichever combination that it fixes the 0%/0%/25%/50% racial resist profile to be about 44% across the board)
fuckton of guns (online anything that you can ... it's not like you're saving ISK anymore by having unused grid/CPU). Pretty much Autocannons/artillery ... missiles are pretty terrible.

Lowsec:
Go large, or go home (least my motto)
3/3/2/1 hardeners (0%/0%/25%/50% ... ends up ~55% across the board)
Lots of guns/EWAR/etc.

Full bay of stront (hisec or lowsec).

Guns are set up in a 3-d '+' shape, 6 sets of batteries (top/bottom and front/back/left/right on the equator). Webs/points/other ewar are the "anchors" with 6 guns around them. Gun placement isn't "super critical" since their range is calculated from the centre of the stick. EWAR/points/webs/etc are placed to cover the POS as best as possible, since their range is calculated from the modules individually.

If you make enough to afford the tower, just consider paying for your game time with plex and playing the pvp game.

If you just want to see it, do it on the test server.

Towers can pay, but like real life, you work for what you earn.

Just my opinion.

Either way, build your stuff on the test server to figure it out before you build in live space.