EVE General Discussion

Wow why are there so many pricks on these forums? This guy took the time to write something interesting, something that you might actually have to think about to understand, something on a level above most of the normal forum-garbage and trolling, and 80% of people that respond say "Get back on your meds" or "TL;DR".

Seriously guys? I suppose many of the people who responded in this way aren't capable of comprehending anything that isn't black-and-white - it seems abstract concepts and language just goes right over your head. Maybe people are just ******* around, I sure hope so. The last thing the internet needs is another mean-hearted cesspool of a forum.

I personally think it's an interesting topic. Gaming to me is all about immersion - or to put it another way, escape. Of course, you can't lose perspective that you are still just playing a game, but the more the game sucks you into its world, the more you can connect to your avatar and relate to other characters in the game, the better. They offer a temporary refuge from the dull cubnicle-based existence many of use are confined to from 9 to 5.

MMO's are definitely unique in several ways - as you mentioned, the dialogue of the game, its politics and the big events - are not programmed or scripted in, per se. It all comes down to the interaction between players and between groups of players. For someone like me, who makes the majority of their in-game income trading, it becomes clear that you cannot easily predict what's going to happen, or how the markets are going to change, for example. There are so many human players that there are an infinite number of variables all interacting with each other at any given time.

Sometimes I do wish there was a bit more of a solid cannon of lore. For example, the Mass Effect series does an excellent job pulling you into the game-world. The locations are all unique, the different races are all interesting, and there is a backstory which influences in every way what is going to happen in the game. Since EVE relies almost completely on human players to create the story, sometimes I feel like it would be cooler if there were more developer-seeded events that would affect vast amounts of people. Incursions are an example of this. Maybe we could see more of the Jove, or political events within the different factions would have more bearing on players. Obviously this is easier said than done, but it's interesting to think about.

Could not have said it better. Heck the combat jitters I feel during PvP and the read, react, fight or flight reaction I go through sure seem pretty real. Whats odd is how its exactly the same regardless of if I'm in a T1 fit Punisher or a faction fit Legion.

Its that sensation, the feeling of true risk and matching wits against another person that keeps me excited. That and I enjoy creating, organizing, progressing, moving forward, becoming better, growing stronger, getting smarter, fighting more victoriusly and dying harder.

Ignatius Hood can be killed in this game. But you're going to have to work at it!

The whole game is pretty trippy. The concept itself, especially when you take our reality and those of the Sleepers...

Then again reality is a lot like a dream...anyone ever read Otherland by Tad Williams? Ever seen 2012 and Eyes Wide Shut by Stanley Kubrick? Is there an underlying reality and is it this world or the world of story?

To me, my wife and a few friends and coworkers and the local music festival are my only ties to the other world.

EVE has been home for a long time...

And now I'm watching Hilary Clinton mention a fellow EVE player who got killed IRL by name. My life has truly been a dream come true, a freaking weird one.

Chizz

A wirtual vorld within a wirtual vorld.

The Matrix, you're in it.

The Technocrat: Management, Manipulation, Creation and Expansion of EVE Organizations

http://heartsandmindsalliance.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=4&id=71&Itemid=232

X-Wing vs Tie Fighter!

Better not watch any movies or TV shows. You might start believing everything that happens in them.

If the game/song/movie/book doesn't tug at our senses and make us feel, it wont be good at keeping people enjoying it.

just look what you did there

Is effecting your ability to fly spaceships in eve online?

ELEVENTH METAGAMING EXERCISE: Separation of the map from the territory. The thing is not the words that describe the thing. The menu is not the meal. What you believe about the world is not the same thing as the world. Every single time you are confronted with someone who disagrees with you, with information that is in contravention with your current information, especially beloved cherished longheld beliefs, monitor how upset the particular incident makes you and exactly what it was. This includes personal insults and accusations. These are particularly instructive because as we all know, you don't get upset at anything anyone says unless they have touched a nerve. A good agent can tell far more about someone than that person knows about themselves in a relatively short conversation just by tracking these reactions. Bonus Insight: It is awesome, really truly awesome, how much information you suddenly get access to once you can see past your own reflexive reactions. Second Free Bonus Insight: This is really just an elaboration of the Golden Rule exercise.