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Petition for system name change for Vile Rat

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Lord Regent
Caldari State
#141 - 2012-09-13 15:58:04 UTC
+1 I support renaming a system for him.

powers-sa: flaming deadtear is like lighting your own farts powers-sa: eventually you are going to singe your ass
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#142 - 2012-09-13 16:35:03 UTC
Mangala Solaris wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
1 monument
in jita
the names of every eve player who has passed on in the description
it never leaves, just gets updated


Rather than Jita, how about back in New Eden, with the EVE Gate in the background. Kinda symbolising that these players have "returned" to Earth.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153269

I am not an alt of Chribba.
Anslo
Scope Works
#143 - 2012-09-13 17:00:35 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Imagine if the game is available still in say, 50 years and Chribba finally dies of old age?
What do you mean finally? Lol Although noone would want a 120yr old playing a spaceship game I think...


Confirming Chribba for 70 years old? Shocked

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Mindraak
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#144 - 2012-09-13 17:03:02 UTC
+1 for monument

tbh i never heard of him but from what i read i get the impresion that he deserves one.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#145 - 2012-09-13 17:04:11 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Imagine if the game is available still in say, 50 years and Chribba finally dies of old age?
What do you mean finally? Lol Although noone would want a 120yr old playing a spaceship game I think...



I presume all that mining is so relaxing you'll live a long time, like Spock. Smile

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Matarella
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#146 - 2012-09-13 17:12:32 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Rashmika Clavain wrote:


Who are we [collectively] to decide who is more valuable than another? :shrug:



We are human beings, and we make value judgements all day long.

I didn't know either of you personally, but I'd vote VR was more valuable than you.


I dont know you or VR at all. but I vote my best friend who saved my life one day to be more valuable.

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#147 - 2012-09-13 17:14:57 UTC
Matarella wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Rashmika Clavain wrote:


Who are we [collectively] to decide who is more valuable than another? :shrug:



We are human beings, and we make value judgements all day long.

I didn't know either of you personally, but I'd vote VR was more valuable than you.


I dont know you or VR at all. but I vote my best friend who saved my life one day to be more valuable.



This crap is getting out of hand.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Matarella
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#148 - 2012-09-13 17:19:55 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Matarella wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Rashmika Clavain wrote:


Who are we [collectively] to decide who is more valuable than another? :shrug:



We are human beings, and we make value judgements all day long.

I didn't know either of you personally, but I'd vote VR was more valuable than you.


I dont know you or VR at all. but I vote my best friend who saved my life one day to be more valuable.



This crap is getting out of hand.


exacly my point.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#149 - 2012-09-13 17:31:58 UTC
Signed. +1

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#150 - 2012-09-13 17:32:58 UTC
Vile Rat realized diplomacy both RL and with internet spaceships is srs bsns.

VR-RIP must come to be.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Gaius Fabius
Destructive Technologies
#151 - 2012-09-13 18:53:02 UTC
yes i want a system named after myself as well
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#152 - 2012-09-13 19:39:16 UTC
CCP could let the players vote on it.

Or make a special status for peoples toons that are confirmed Deceased IRL that everyone can access.

This is something dooable without having to worry about values of people etc.

Human life has so much value no matter how small or large others may think of a person that there is no way to attribute a value to it. Human life just has so much value that it cannot be quantified. Some monsters have tried too in history but there is a reason people remember them as monsters.

I say the circumstances dictate that a remembrance of the man is in order personally.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#153 - 2012-09-13 19:59:25 UTC
Signed.

+1.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
FDIC Agent
Doomheim
#154 - 2012-09-13 22:49:18 UTC
I will only support a system name change and/or statue if it is done for every single eve player who has died so far and future players. We all help shape this game.
Verone
Veto Corp
#155 - 2012-09-13 23:36:54 UTC
To be fair, I think that this thread, which I was just linked back to in game during discussion over Sean pretty much closes the argument on monuments within Eve for people who've passed away in real life.

I'm personally of the opinion that if any monument is to be created within Eve for anyone, it should be player funded, player created and player maintained, such is the way of the sandbox.

Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM
Norrin Ellis
Doomheim
#156 - 2012-09-13 23:38:43 UTC
Who is Vile Rat?

What makes him objectively more significant than any other EVE player to have died?

CEO, Venture Racing

Manager, EVE Online Hold'Em
Tellura
Los Diablos Blancos
#157 - 2012-09-13 23:48:47 UTC
Verone wrote:
To be fair, I think that this thread, which I was just linked back to in game during discussion over Sean pretty much closes the argument on monuments within Eve for people who've passed away in real life.

I'm personally of the opinion that if any monument is to be created within Eve for anyone, it should be player funded, player created and player maintained, such is the way of the sandbox.



+1
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#158 - 2012-09-14 00:39:30 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
FDIC Agent wrote:
Why is it that goons go to extreme measures to mock the death of other players and even getting on stage demanding action be taken to cause someone to kill themselves... but when one of their own dies, it is serious business??

How about you guys treat all death with respect and don't harrass those grieving.


Interesting...

Someone earlier thought it was bad to judge individuals on their actions or behavior, but it's OK to judge entire groups of people based on the actions of other members of the group? I think not.

Actually, it is *this* type of thinking that leads to the violence that started the protests, riots and deaths. It's this type of thinking that starts most wars.

Ascribing the actions of one to the entire group he belongs to, and transferring your hatred for one onto the others of the group is at the root of the problem.

Two wrongs don't make a right. But the reputation that goons have built is not out of accident. They (as in goons) thrive on the grief of others. So much so they've gone out of their way to ridicule victims of suicide attacks and death of other people through their silly "jihad" campaigns, mockeries, or other distasteful foolishness. And it may be the case that not all goons participate in these "events". But if they're going to wear the "goon" tag they need to understand the perception it brings on them as a group. the same way, say a *** member, needs to understand the perception that is brought on him by merely being a member of the group.

With that said, what happend to Sean is very tragic and unfortunate and I can only hope that his family and loved ones are able to cope and carry on quickly, especially his children. This community has come together to show its support of a fallen and fellow player, which on its own is quite amazing. A monument doesn't sound like a bad idea, although renaming a system, in my opinion, may be setting up an unfair precedent.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
FDIC Agent
Doomheim
#159 - 2012-09-14 00:57:28 UTC  |  Edited by: FDIC Agent
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
FDIC Agent wrote:
Why is it that goons go to extreme measures to mock the death of other players and even getting on stage demanding action be taken to cause someone to kill themselves... but when one of their own dies, it is serious business??

How about you guys treat all death with respect and don't harrass those grieving.


Interesting...

Someone earlier thought it was bad to judge individuals on their actions or behavior, but it's OK to judge entire groups of people based on the actions of other members of the group? I think not.

Actually, it is *this* type of thinking that leads to the violence that started the protests, riots and deaths. It's this type of thinking that starts most wars.

Ascribing the actions of one to the entire group he belongs to, and transferring your hatred for one onto the others of the group is at the root of the problem.

Two wrongs don't make a right. But the reputation that goons have built is not out of accident. They (as in goons) thrive on the grief of others. So much so they've gone out of their way to ridicule victims of suicide attacks and death of other people through their silly "jihad" campaigns, mockeries, or other distasteful foolishness. And it may be the case that not all goons participate in these "events". But if they're going to wear the "goon" tag they need to understand the perception it brings on them as a group. the same way, say a *** member, needs to understand the perception that is brought on him by merely being a member of the group.

With that said, what happend to Sean is very tragic and unfortunate and I can only hope that his family and loved ones are able to cope and carry on quickly, especially his children. This community has come together to show its support of a fallen and fellow player, which on its own is quite amazing. A monument doesn't sound like a bad idea, although renaming a system, in my opinion, may be setting up an unfair precedent.


Well said. I suggest everyone to read up on the full history of a group and the kind of activities they do before joining them.
Marcus Caspius
#160 - 2012-09-14 03:57:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Caspius
Rashmika Clavain wrote:
Maybe!

Besides, I think the best monument to a fallen EVE player is an Officer fit Titan wreck on a low sec gate Cool



While I like almost all the idees ppl have suggested I think it has to be accessible to all (most). I think it should be in High Sec. An intact Titan that is invulnerable on a High Sec gate could be real nice. Maybe the same race as which VR was from?

I did also like the idea that someone suggest earlier; that all players that pass away while having an active account should be listed on the memorial description.

Its one of the things that sets us apart from animals is that we remember and pay respects to our dead.

Grammatical error and spelling mistakes are included for your entertainment!