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Reddit post from Sean Smith(aka Vile Rat), who was the US official killed in Libya yesterday, showca

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Angel Scott
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-09-13 05:06:00 UTC
http://www.reddit.com/r/evedreddit/comments/b4lm7/should_you_join_dreddit_a_cynical_view_full/c0l28r5

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Greetings friends! I play Vile rat in game, Goon Diplomat. I'll keep this kinda short but I have been reading your concerns and I wish to put some of them to rest if at all possible.

First the Why. Why did Goonsw... er, SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO[LODRA] approach Dreddit directors out of the blue and offer help and friendship? Anybody in their right mind would see huge flashing warning lights and alarming klaxons blaring every indication that you should be skeptical. To really understand you kinda have to see the game through our eyes. Goons (let's just go with that instead of the alliance name) are all, in theory, members of the Somethingawful.com forums. We are all from an outside place with a distinct culture and an almost xenophobic dislike of "pubbies" being public players not from our joint background. Are our posters really better than the public ones? Is our culture better? Maybe yes, maybe no, but it makes a convenient bad guy for our day to day workings. We've befriended other forums based groups such as Merch Industrial (Pennyarcade forums) and Ars Ex Discordia (ARS Technica forums) as they have a similar culture and for the most part all came into the game in a huge migration much like we did. For some reason it just works and we don't hate their company so much, except for this one Merchi guy and his dog but we'll get into that later.

So understanding all that fast forward to a few weeks ago when we took part in a hot drop of one of your lowsec mining ops. We wiped the whole thing out but in doing so we saw a little Goonfleet circa 2006 with a bunch of 5 day old newbies in Frigates jumping stupidly into lowsec and it made us take a closer look at you guys. Whenever we see cute newbies bumping into things in their rifters asking on intel channels how to jump through gates and what x'ing up means we are sincerely overcome with cute overload and that's what brings us to today.

Ok so you know why we want to help you guys and maybe you even believe me, but it doesn't answer what our intentions are here. Are we starting some program to harvest your best and brightest? Are we trying to absorb your culture into a faceless blob? Our answer is no. We wouldn't absorb your members even if that was what you wanted. We are Goons and you are from another forum, you have your identity we have ours. We are only interested in helping you guys find the fun part of eve right away instead of waiting a year mining veldspar in empire saving up for an opportunity. We were given a similar chance when we first started and having recognized an opportunity to pass it on a little bit, we are doing so. We do not want to absorb Dreddit, and in fact are stressing the importance of your group establishing it's own identity and in game culture. We are opening up our assets somewhat and will do what we can to answer your questions and give you chances to go blow things up with us ~if you want to~ but this has and never will be a condition for anything. If you want a friend, we are here for you. If you just need a leg up so you can do your own thing, we will be there for you helping if that is what you guys want. If you don't want anything from us at all, just a buddy to have around then we are there for you Dreddites (dredizens? Droods? somebody help me out here). You went with us into Fountain and owned the hell out of some scrubs with us and we really enjoyed having you guys there.

That's basically it!
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-09-13 05:13:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Zagdul
Shortly after this note, Dreddit and LODRA invaded Scalding Pass removing what was once a 400 man Fatal Ascension from it's space.

Those were the days.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

Kaleb Rysode
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-09-13 07:45:16 UTC
Thank you for digging this up. Reading it made me smile when I really needed one.

"The reality is that the sandbox is amoral. You don't have to like it, but...reality owns."

pussnheels
Viziam
#4 - 2012-09-13 08:14:35 UTC
while this is a tragedy for his family and friends and they have my sincere condolences , i don('t think this is a good idea ,
there have been more people KIA over the past 8 years that played EvE or otherwise died a tragic death , each time a tragedy for their family and friends
I just think this isn't the right place , his friends online will always remember him foundly , let it stay that way

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#5 - 2012-09-13 08:21:39 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
while this is a tragedy for his family and friends and they have my sincere condolences , i don('t think this is a good idea ,
there have been more people KIA over the past 8 years that played EvE or otherwise died a tragic death , each time a tragedy for their family and friends
I just think this isn't the right place , his friends online will always remember him foundly , let it stay that way


Few directly impacted the lives of so many.
Glomondon
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-09-13 08:30:28 UTC
Vile Rat thread No.16587
Shirehorse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-09-13 11:54:05 UTC
Slightly going over the top now. Getting slightly pathetic.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#8 - 2012-09-13 14:44:49 UTC
^ people who had absolutely no idea how much this man influenced the game they play.
SeaBassSA
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-09-13 14:52:59 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
^ people who had absolutely no idea how much this man influenced the game they play.


Sadly, if they haven't figured that out by now, they never will. Pubbies gonna pub, etc.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#10 - 2012-09-13 15:41:45 UTC
wait he was the us ambassador to libya that died?

Not today spaghetti.

Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-09-13 15:46:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
SeaBassSA wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
^ people who had absolutely no idea how much this man influenced the game they play.


Sadly, if they haven't figured that out by now, they never will. Pubbies gonna pub, etc.

Considering Goons, among others, come to this game from outside communities, representing those communities, wouldn't that make YOU the pubbies?

Sorry man but your silly elitism just reinforces people's dislike of you and the group you represent, keep it up. Roll
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-09-13 15:53:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
Not sure he knows what pubbie means :S

The way I understand it pubbies are players who have no out of game background with the community of players they joined to play with. Which makes me a pubbie too.

In a derogatory sense its people who are generally ignorant to these said communities
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-09-13 15:55:37 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
Not sure he knows what pubbie means :S

It's a derogatory term used to denote a member of the "public" who is not a member of THEIR community.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Katrina Bekers
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-09-13 15:57:33 UTC
:shobon:

...And so, TEST was born...

<< THE RABBLE BRIGADE >>

Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-09-13 16:01:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
Paul Oliver wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Not sure he knows what pubbie means :S

It's a derogatory term used to denote a member of the "public" who is not a member of THEIR community.


Yea pretty much. So what youre saying is that players who joined from SA are pubbies to the greater eve community? Wouldnt that imply the greater eve community was a lot more tight knit than it is?

edit- also is there any particular reason you are bouncing around these threads with ill meaning posts? Give it a break already.
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-09-13 16:38:08 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
also is there any particular reason you are bouncing around these threads with ill meaning posts? Give it a break already.


I have been nothing but respectful in the threads that deal with Sean Smith, I don't feel the same obligation towards topics that deal with 'Vile Rat'. Roll
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
ISD Praetoxx
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-09-13 17:08:05 UTC
We already have LOADS of threads regarding Vile Rat. Please use one of them instead of making a new one. I suggest the R.I.P. Vile Rat thread.

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