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games gone to crap - solo pvp is deead
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RenDirka
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#81 - 2012-09-13 00:42:12 UTC
Commander Predator wrote:
RenDirka wrote:
Commander Predator wrote:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Mikeh24/K_Cubed_Runnin_Wild.wmv

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Mikeh24/K3_Got_Gank.mkv

plenty of proof i know how to do the pvp thing...



Go make your own vids ya jerk! and leave my old crap alone! <3


but you gave me permission via facebook chat mike=//



well time to sell this alt....
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#82 - 2012-09-13 00:43:00 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Babar Baboli wrote:
There are plenty of solo-action in Factional Warfare.


Chasing Warp Stabbed Frigs is not Solo Pvp.....


No, it's interrupting someone else's PvE and "hard work" and you should be ashamed of yourself for wanting to force your playstyle on them.
Tyraeil Starblade
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2012-09-13 01:10:19 UTC
Commander Predator wrote:
make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but

As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440

in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself

now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's....

but everything in this game is now just numbers game

but whatever im not the last to go for this reason.


Wow, those fits belong in the dark ages. Have you heard of ASBs?
RenDirka
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2012-09-13 01:17:40 UTC
Tyraeil Starblade wrote:
Commander Predator wrote:
make the game better ccp... like... press the restart button and go back to dark ages and ill come back but

As my last thing to do before i quit for good ive been spending my isk on ridiculous battleships and going around suicide pvping them.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14591648

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14571216

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14600440

in every instance so far as my last test of "JUst for ***** and giggles" there has been at least 1 logi and / or Falcon in a fleet much outnumbering myself

now obviously i got around 90m sp and my fit is worth about 2 billion, so a fair fight would be at least 3 or 4 average battleships vrs me or 7 or 8 bc's vrs me, so i wasnt expecting any 1 v 1's....

but everything in this game is now just numbers game

but whatever im not the last to go for this reason.


Wow, those fits belong in the dark ages. Have you heard of ASBs?


Could have fit an ECCM in the spare mid Cool
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#85 - 2012-09-13 01:18:49 UTC
Not everyone needs ASB's on everything.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Tyraeil Starblade
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2012-09-13 01:25:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyraeil Starblade
Lady Spank wrote:
Not everyone needs ASB's on everything.


Yes, yes they do. MOAR ASB CAPTAIN!

I also agree that if the guy hates falcons so much, he should fit an ECCM.
Imigo Montoya
BreadFleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#87 - 2012-09-13 02:42:41 UTC
There are a lot of games out there that sell a fantasy. They provide an experience that is beatable, where results can be achieved by anybody who really tries. They sell the fantasy that you are really good at this and you could save the world/universe.

EVE Online takes that fantasy and beats you half to death with it, then it tells you to HTFU and get over yourself.

It's a multiplayer game where you are facing other people who are trying to beat you just as much as you are trying to beat them. Those other players will use what advantages they can get. You have 90m skillpoints, they have active friends who work together.

If you want EVE to change to suit your playstyle and cater to your fantasy of being awesome, then GTFO and don't ruin a damn good game.
Commander Predator
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#88 - 2012-09-13 03:26:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Predator
Imigo Montoya wrote:
There are a lot of games out there that sell a fantasy. They provide an experience that is beatable, where results can be achieved by anybody who really tries. They sell the fantasy that you are really good at this and you could save the world/universe.

EVE Online takes that fantasy and beats you half to death with it, then it tells you to HTFU and get over yourself.

It's a multiplayer game where you are facing other people who are trying to beat you just as much as you are trying to beat them. Those other players will use what advantages they can get. You have 90m skillpoints, they have active friends who work together.

If you want EVE to change to suit your playstyle and cater to your fantasy of being awesome, then GTFO and don't ruin a damn good game.


Im not ruining the game its been ruined already

ASB's are gay **** that ****

as for HTFU.. well.. i mean i flew around with a pretty penny worth of stuff suicidal, and dont feel an ounce of adrenaline rush like i use too... ive hardened but im tired of ccp changing the game for the worse.

eccm would be great btw but... eccm doesnt help against blobs, logistics etc and even with an eccm the falcon would still have me pretty much perma jammed probably use 3 ecms at once, if they all failed he has 3 more, one of them will hit.
Imigo Montoya
BreadFleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#89 - 2012-09-13 04:08:56 UTC
You do realise that since "back in the day" EVE has grown significantly in player numbers right? There are three times as many active subscribers now as there were in 2006.

There are more people playing now, and people have been playing longer and worked out what works and what doesn't. Hypothetically the actual game (the rules, the multimedia, the server code etc) could have stayed exactly the same and would be entirely different based on those two factors alone. I can say that because EVE Online is player driven, and it is the players who create the interesting content. At least CCP seem to recognise this.

Complaining about EVE Online becoming a "numbers game" is like complaining that it is growing and reaching a larger audience.
Commander Predator
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#90 - 2012-09-13 04:10:38 UTC
Imigo Montoya wrote:
You do realise that since "back in the day" EVE has grown significantly in player numbers right? There are three times as many active subscribers now as there were in 2006.

There are more people playing now, and people have been playing longer and worked out what works and what doesn't. Hypothetically the actual game (the rules, the multimedia, the server code etc) could have stayed exactly the same and would be entirely different based on those two factors alone. I can say that because EVE Online is player driven, and it is the players who create the interesting content. At least CCP seem to recognise this.

Complaining about EVE Online becoming a "numbers game" is like complaining that it is growing and reaching a larger audience.


new players replace the old, old that have stayed have alts, new players almost all have alts... its mostly alts not actually 3x as many people... maybe 40% new people... its grown... but not by 300%
Ghazu
#91 - 2012-09-13 04:12:02 UTC
Hey if the OP ain't doing it right nobody else is right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymPCCclPDU&feature=player_embedded#!

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#92 - 2012-09-13 04:13:21 UTC
Commander Predator wrote:
Imigo Montoya wrote:
You do realise that since "back in the day" EVE has grown significantly in player numbers right? There are three times as many active subscribers now as there were in 2006.

There are more people playing now, and people have been playing longer and worked out what works and what doesn't. Hypothetically the actual game (the rules, the multimedia, the server code etc) could have stayed exactly the same and would be entirely different based on those two factors alone. I can say that because EVE Online is player driven, and it is the players who create the interesting content. At least CCP seem to recognise this.

Complaining about EVE Online becoming a "numbers game" is like complaining that it is growing and reaching a larger audience.


new players replace the old, old that have stayed have alts, new players almost all have alts... its mostly alts not actually 3x as many people... maybe 40% new people... its grown... but not by 300%


lol projecting much?

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#93 - 2012-09-13 04:18:50 UTC
if you are looking for solo pvp join faction warfare and go do some low level plexes in a tech I frig... thats what i do... mostly i die due to lame tracking disrupters... grrr...

but come the updated tristan being a drone boat... well then i might start to win more often!

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#94 - 2012-09-13 04:25:40 UTC
Judging from your horrible ideas about logis, nothing will save you. >:-)

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#95 - 2012-09-13 04:27:45 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Judging from your horrible ideas about logis, nothing will save you. >:-)

-Liang



right mr. internal rep bonus....Blink

please can we refrain from trolling for at least one day?


tomorrow troll me all you like...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#96 - 2012-09-13 04:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilianna Star
EVE has many strengths. Solo PvP is not one of them. Even when solo PvP supposedly existed, it wasn't that great.

There are other MMOs out there that have much better solo PvP. In EVE, it's a team effort or nothing.
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#97 - 2012-09-13 04:41:35 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Hey if the OP ain't doing it right nobody else is right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymPCCclPDU&feature=player_embedded#!


Actually, this is for the OP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYF0BYX_OuU

But, then again, he might be watching too much XDMR's Rokh videos and though that he could always win without any strategy or plan.

Btw. EFT PvP is not real PvP.
Imigo Montoya
BreadFleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#98 - 2012-09-13 04:44:13 UTC
Commander Predator wrote:
new players replace the old, old that have stayed have alts, new players almost all have alts... its mostly alts not actually 3x as many people... maybe 40% new people... its grown... but not by 300%


You can quibble over possible details, but it is a quantifiable, verifiable fact that there are three times as many active subscriptions now (~350k) than there was in 2006 (~100k).

EVE Online has grown. EVE Online has been around longer now than it had been around then (clearly). These factors have a significant effect on a player driven game's dynamics. Whether it's 40% new people or 200% new people is entirely beside the point.
Zera Kerrigan
The 420th Token
#99 - 2012-09-13 04:45:28 UTC
Yeah I agree. There should be some kind of scaling mechanism. If your opponent or enemy is stronger/better that you, you should get scaled up so that they have no chance against you. Ofcourse then the same would happen to him and it goes on forever but nevermind that.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#100 - 2012-09-13 05:04:29 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
EVE has many strengths. Solo PvP is not one of them. Even when solo PvP supposedly existed, it wasn't that great.

There are other MMOs out there that have much better solo PvP. In EVE, it's a team effort or nothing.


the best fights i ever had were solo pvp... back in the day in a ratting bs deep in null sec before there were all those outposts...

being in a semi pvp/pve ship 16 jumps from an outpost was kick ass... everything you had was in your ship... solo pvp was awesome...

and if you do fw... then its back... all you have to do is join fw with an alt and start doing low level plexes and presto you get a fight... and more often then not its solo pvp...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.