EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi there,

To begin, I have tried EVE Online a couple times and always somehow got lonely and left. This time, my goal is to kind of just skill my character up while I go about my IRL business and look for a corp matching my desires.

I was wondering if it would be a good idea to do pick up some mining skills along my way. Basically I want to do mostly PVE mission running and exploration with some moderate PVP in the mix later on (right now I am not even a glorified speed bump...).

Is it a good idea to pick up enough mining to mine in a retriever (and eventually be out in null sec with a corp), or should I just shoot straight for my ultimate goal (carrier captain)?

Any and ALL advice is greatly appreciated!!

Any skills that make you ISK are good, doing mining and refinings skills do not take much time and once you have them you have an easy way to make ISK. That being said it is not for everyone, and if you are serious join a mining corp who dabbles in missions. I know everyone says you can make more doing anything, but for my ISK Mining allows me to equip my ships with Tech II, and I am able to afford to fly and lose the ships I fly. Either way, you need time and skills for any profession.

However, if you are going to mine commit to it, and get the skills for max yield and max refine, not a lot of skills or time to max both, and then you work on combat with out any side trips. That goes for whatever you do, focus on that point in the future where you are ready.

Good luck and hope you stay, took 5 retries before i got to where I sticking!!.

Carriers are support ships. They can assign fighters for damage (decent, but not really above battleship-level damage) and use capital remote reps. Also they can carry assembled and rigged ships, making them good for logistics (rebasing, etc).

Not only are they not very good alone, they pretty much cannot do anything by themselves. They cannot even so much as use jump gates; they need to jump to a cyno beacon lit by someone else. Capitals are unpopular in wormholes; they cannot fit into many (most? all?) wormholes, so often times a carrier would have to be built inside the wormhole system...Maybe in high-class wormholes?



if you like drones, then go with Gallente - half of their ship lineup is dedicated to drones, and the other half still have relatively healthy drone bays.

You seem to be comparing EVE to other MMOs. I would not do that.




Logistics and EWAR might be up your alley. For logistics, you have the t2 logistics cruisers...and not too much else right now. However, CCP is in the process of rebalancing the t1 ship lineup and by Winter we will have logistics t1 frigates and cruisers which will allow you to fulfill that role effectively without spending 100+ mil on a t2 cruiser for it.

As far as ewar, each race has their own ewar ships. Right now most tech 1 ewar ships are bad (save for the Caldari blackbird and griffin), but these are also being rebalanced by Winter. In general, Amarr and Minmatar Ewar ships are going to be more combat/ewar hybrids, whereas Gallente and Caldari ewar are going to be more pure support.

Caldari racial ewar is ECM, which breaks target locks. Gallente racial ewar is remote sensor dampeners, which reduce scan resolution and/or locking range. Right now, remote sensor damps are terrible, but the rebalance I talked about should be fixing this.

Furthermore, the tech-2 Ewar ships of each race have an additional electronic warfare bonus. Caldari just get more ECM bonuses, Gallente ships have bonuses to warp scrambler and disruptor range. Minmatar t2 ships have bonuses to target painting (primary, their t1 hulls have this too) and stasis webifiers. Amarr have bonuses to tracking disruptors (primary) and energy nosferatus/neuts.


Looking for a corp is certainly the best thing you could be doing right now. I'd suggest my own, though we are heavily frigate-centric and you seem to want to move into larger ships.

Don't forget to tank for individual damage types - cheese, ham, tomato etc.

Hi,

Generally speaking, while having a 'goal ship' and 'mining' are enticing at first, most long-term EVE players - as opposed to most MMOs, see ships and PvE activity as means to an end, tools to carry out in-game goals rather then ends in of themselves. In the end, what you fly isnt nearly as important as that you know the limitations of the ship you're in, and are able to anticipate the actions of the ships of your enemies. Oh sure, you can build yourself 'the dream ship', and many EVE players set out with that goal, but this is the fate of all 'dream ships' eventually.. Like Kahega said, some veterans fly T1 ships because T1 ships happen to be the right tools for the goals they've set out for themselves.

This is also why 'joining a corp' is probably the best bit of advise you can get. Not only can corpmates answer your questions as they come up, and assist you when you get into trouble or need help with something, but the best corps help give you in-game goals to carry out together, which is vital in a sandbox like EVE is. Otherwise we'd all get bored and leave, like you said. The barrier to lowsec, or nullsec (WHs typically have advanced probing skills as a req) isn't as steep as many like to make it out to be. Some organizations prefer newbies jumping in the deep end right away, unburdened by old preconceptions and learned bad habits.

Nullsec mining requires teamwork, especially for a T1 mining barge (if only to withstand the rats), but it can be much safer and more profitable then highsec mining when in the right group in a secured system. It also typically comes with PVP obligations to contribute in securing the space, or rental payments if you refuse to PVP at all costs. It's a decision that has to be made.

As for carriers, carriers are purposed more around carrying out alliance and corp-wide goals, repairing and anchoring structures, ferrying large amounts of ships across long distances for a war effort, etc. They have combat and repairing ("healing") capacities as well, but these are secondary. Generally speaking, in EVE, the more expensive and 'end-game' a ship is, typically the more people it requires to ensure pilot safety and usefulness.