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Vile Rat Foundation IS NOT associated with the CFC!

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-09-12 17:34:20 UTC
I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay". P
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#22 - 2012-09-12 17:35:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Ensign X wrote:
IF CCP wants to stop the Vile Rat Foundation from collecting "donations", which appears to be well within the rules of the sandbox, they'll have to use a lesser known and more obscure rule to do so as the EULA reference you made has no bearing here.
…except that he's doing exactly what the rule states he shouldn't be doing, and that they've tossed people out no their ears for far less before. It's not reaching; it's empirics.

Nice to see so much white-knighting for a soon-to-be-banned total fuckwit though.
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-09-12 17:35:38 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Isabelle Fleise wrote:
He's not actually impersonating anyone.
…except that he's using a well-known name to impersonate and falsely represent an on-going community effort.

Don't worry. People have been tossed out for far less before.


You're reaching.

The EULA states:

Quote:
No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity.


IF CCP wants to stop the Vile Rat Foundation from collecting "donations", which appears to be well within the rules of the sandbox, they'll have to use a lesser known and more obscure rule to do so as the EULA reference you made has no bearing here.



What like being a human being with morals you mean ......


Tal


I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk

Ensign X
#24 - 2012-09-12 17:36:30 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay". P


"They" are, but only when "they" make the decision about how, when and where the "emergent gameplay" takes place.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2012-09-12 17:38:17 UTC
Ensign X wrote:

IF CCP wants to stop the Vile Rat Foundation from collecting "donations", which appears to be well within the rules of the sandbox, they'll have to use a lesser known and more obscure rule to do so as the EULA reference you made has no bearing here.


People have been banned for trying to scam donations to a RL charity drive before.
Ensign X
#26 - 2012-09-12 17:39:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ensign X
Tippia wrote:
Ensign X wrote:
IF CCP wants to stop the Vile Rat Foundation from collecting "donations", which appears to be well within the rules of the sandbox, they'll have to use a lesser known and more obscure rule to do so as the EULA reference you made has no bearing here.
…except that he's doing exactly what the rule states he shouldn't be doing, and that they've tossed people out no their ears for far less before. It's not reaching; it's empirics.

Nice to see so much white-knighting for a soon-to-be-banned total fuckwit though.


Definitely not white-knighting the guy, but definitely his right to scam, which Vile Rat would also do, had he the ability to do so.
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-09-12 17:39:43 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay". P


"They" are, but only when "they" make the decision about how, when and where the "emergent gameplay" takes place.



Don't see what emergent game play has to do with real life tragedy ?

Tal


I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk

Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-09-12 17:40:37 UTC
This is just disrespectful, and inappropriate imo. Should not be allowed.
Ensign X
#29 - 2012-09-12 17:41:16 UTC
Rats wrote:
Ensign X wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay". P


"They" are, but only when "they" make the decision about how, when and where the "emergent gameplay" takes place.



Don't see what emergent game play has to do with real life tragedy ?

Tal




Don't see what real life tragedy has to do with EVE Online, but here we are anyway.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#30 - 2012-09-12 17:41:41 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
Definitely not white-knighting the guy, but definitely his right to scam
Fortunately, CCP disagrees with you.

He has every right to scam people. He does not have the right to falsely represent RL-charities.
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-09-12 17:42:44 UTC
Rats wrote:
Ensign X wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay". P


"They" are, but only when "they" make the decision about how, when and where the "emergent gameplay" takes place.



Don't see what emergent game play has to do with real life tragedy ?

Tal



You guys act like JFK died all over again and don't expect someone to try and take advantage of that?
Do you remember what game you're playing? P
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Jack Traynor
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-09-12 17:42:55 UTC
Nothing any of us players can do about sh!thead douchebags doing this kind of thing except

MAKE HIS EVE LIFE MISERABLE WITHIN GAME RULES
Ensign X
#33 - 2012-09-12 17:43:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ensign X
Tippia wrote:
Ensign X wrote:
Definitely not white-knighting the guy, but definitely his right to scam
Fortunately, CCP disagrees with you.

He has every right to scam people. He does not have the right to falsely represent RL-charities.


What RL charity? There is no "Vile Rat Foundation" outside of this one dude in EVE Online. He's not misrepresenting anybody or anything. Again, you're reaching.
Jack Traynor
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-09-12 17:43:34 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Rats wrote:
Ensign X wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay". P


"They" are, but only when "they" make the decision about how, when and where the "emergent gameplay" takes place.



Don't see what emergent game play has to do with real life tragedy ?

Tal



You guys act like JFK died all over again and don't expect someone to try and take advantage of that?
Do you remember what game you're playing? P


Gaming is one thing. Behaving like a complete scumbag is another.
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2012-09-12 17:43:36 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Beat me to it.



+1

Just saw the jabber ping about him.


What a piece of trash human being

FC, what do?

Qorvis Communications
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-09-12 17:44:03 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Isabelle Fleise wrote:
I wonder if this is bannable. Probably not. It's distasteful, but not actually scamming related to a CCP-organised charity drive.
It is. It breaks EULA §2b about impersonation and false representation.

that only applies if the person is pretending to be vile rat himself.
Ensign X
#37 - 2012-09-12 17:44:41 UTC
Qorvis Communications wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Isabelle Fleise wrote:
I wonder if this is bannable. Probably not. It's distasteful, but not actually scamming related to a CCP-organised charity drive.
It is. It breaks EULA §2b about impersonation and false representation.

that only applies if the person is pretending to be vile rat himself.


Exactly.
Ensign X
#38 - 2012-09-12 17:45:32 UTC
Jack Traynor wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Rats wrote:
Ensign X wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
I thought folks were all about the "emergent gameplay". P


"They" are, but only when "they" make the decision about how, when and where the "emergent gameplay" takes place.



Don't see what emergent game play has to do with real life tragedy ?

Tal



You guys act like JFK died all over again and don't expect someone to try and take advantage of that?
Do you remember what game you're playing? P


Gaming is one thing. Behaving like a complete scumbag is another.


Welcome to EVE Online, where a vast number of people spend entire days behaving like complete scumbags.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2012-09-12 17:45:47 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:

Do you remember what game you're playing? P


Most of the people playing this game know when the game ends and RL starts.
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-09-12 17:46:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
baltec1 wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:

Do you remember what game you're playing? P


Most of the people playing this game know when the game ends and RL starts.

Just let it be. [trollface]

Someone is scamming the scammers in memory of someone who I get the impression was a notorious scammer himself... welcome to EVE.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).