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Petition for system name change for Vile Rat

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ARMTEL
VAT Holdings Ltd
#1 - 2012-09-12 12:51:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ARMTEL
Dear CCP


There are a few players in this game who have shaped our game to what it is today.

Vile Rat was one such person and this morning we learned of his passing, a very sad loss to this community.

Please would you give your consideration to change a system name to VR-RIP. This name was mentioned by Prador in Viles Rip post.

I think this would be a fitting tribute to a player like VR

Thanks for your time


Please sign below if you want to support this idea Big smile
Rashmika Clavain
Revelation Space
#2 - 2012-09-12 13:16:52 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Navigator
I disagree. If we do it for this departed soul, it sets a precedent to be done for others. I don't think it is appropriate or necessary.

There are many players in EVE who help shape what it is today, not just a select few.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#3 - 2012-09-12 13:22:32 UTC
How about player-owned monuments?
Benny Therios
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-09-12 13:23:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD TYPE40
Rashmika Clavain wrote:
I disagree. If we do it for this departed soul, it sets a precedent to be done for others. I don't think it is appropriate or necessary.

There are many players in EVE who help shape what it is today, not just a select few.



I don't know that many had the impact VR did. I do see your point, though.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-09-12 13:24:17 UTC
a permanent monument in whatever system his toon is in right now would be fitting

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-09-12 13:26:33 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
a permanent monument in whatever system his toon is in right now would be fitting

This I agree with.
Rashmika Clavain
Revelation Space
#7 - 2012-09-12 13:27:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Rashmika Clavain
Maybe!

My initial reaction is based upon the application of value to the deceased. I think all are equal in death, yet to start naming systems after an individual attaches a value to said individual.

Who are we [collectively] to decide who is more valuable than another? :shrug:

Besides, I think the best monument to a fallen EVE player is an Officer fit Titan wreck on a low sec gate Cool

Ninja Edit:

I recall some chap from a corp called the Channel 4 news Team (or something) passed away. They celebrated his life by dropping six Moms into Tama resulting in a massive pewpew fest. That's the way to be remembered, and in fact, proof is in the pudding. I do remember him nad the event.
Sturmwolke
#8 - 2012-09-12 13:29:05 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
No. This will open a can of worms.


The only person(s) in my opinion that automatically deserves such accolade are the founding members of CCP

EDIT: Post has been restored and slightly modified to be less confrontational, which given the topic at hand is appropriate - ISD Type40.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#9 - 2012-09-12 13:32:52 UTC
Rashmika Clavain wrote:


Who are we [collectively] to decide who is more valuable than another? :shrug:



We are human beings, and we make value judgements all day long.

I didn't know either of you personally, but I'd vote VR was more valuable than you.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-09-12 13:36:16 UTC
In the Sandbox that is EVE, we can make our own memorials:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12


I respect your sentiment, but it's not appropriate in a video game. We'll remember him always, and knowing Goons, they'll always have some way to be sure he's never forgotten.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

Kyrie Asada
Quality Assurance
#11 - 2012-09-12 13:56:27 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
a permanent monument in whatever system his toon is in right now would be fitting

This I agree with.


Agreed
Max Butched
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-09-12 14:02:03 UTC
his main being in a Erebus, a titan-monument sitting wherever goons want it to be would be pretty fit
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#13 - 2012-09-12 14:02:24 UTC
I can respect and appreciate that you wish to honor your friend. You show great courage and dignity by doing so and you bring respect to yourself and the memory of your friend. His passing was a real life event and this is just a game. Nothing we could do in a video game would bring justice to celebrate the real life of this person.

I can see both sides but sadly it would come down to business. CCP would have to do this for all members as people have previously mentioned. I think some sort of player based monument would be appropriate and this would be decided by the players not the company.

Some sort of monument could be purchased or erected by the players would be reasonable imho.
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2012-09-12 14:18:36 UTC  |  Edited by: highonpop
Zagdul wrote:
In the Sandbox that is EVE, we can make our own memorials:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12


I respect your sentiment, but it's not appropriate in a video game. We'll remember him always, and knowing Goons, they'll always have some way to be sure he's never forgotten.



+1 zag

FC, what do?

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2012-09-12 14:19:49 UTC
A while ago an Eve player passed away after a long fight with cancer and his friends decided to have an in-game gathering in his memory.

The event was of course attended by a number of idiots intent on disrupting things.

And that's why any sort of in-game memorial might not be such a good idea.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2012-09-12 14:21:35 UTC  |  Edited by: highonpop
Rodj Blake wrote:
A while ago an Eve player passed away after a long fight with cancer and his friends decided to have an in-game gathering in his memory.

The event was of course attended by a number of idiots intent on disrupting things.

And that's why any sort of in-game memorial might not be such a good idea.



If we hold a ceremony in his name in nullsec, and players come to OUR SPACE to crash the party.... they will be met at the door by a nasty welcoming party. trust me.



edit:

i counted, over 300 Stations in his name.

FC, what do?

Jake Maverick
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-09-12 14:24:00 UTC
signed. signed a thousand times for either the system name change or an in game station monument, or both.

As for "Player owned monuments" This sounds really nice at first, but as eve players We'd probably litter eve with them, or sully their meaning by finding some way to abuse them, for example to mess people up by jamming them in inconvenient places. But Nothing stops us from naming any thing that is anchorable in his honor. A station, a POS, a container. w/e you can anchor you can name in honor of the fallen.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#18 - 2012-09-12 14:25:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
highonpop wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
A while ago an Eve player passed away after a long fight with cancer and his friends decided to have an in-game gathering in his memory.

The event was of course attended by a number of idiots intent on disrupting things.

And that's why any sort of in-game memorial might not be such a good idea.



If we hold a ceremony in his name in nullsec, and players come to OUR SPACE to crash the party.... they will be met at the door by a nasty welcoming party. trust me.


The fact that you have to use a welcoming party will in itself alter the mood.

In a similar vein, if CCP decide to change a system name to honour VR, how long will it be before someone mistakenly believes themselves to be the reincarnation of Oscar Wilde and builds an outpost with a "witty" name in the system?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-09-12 14:30:24 UTC
Also signed for this, either or both, a system and monument.

Its not just about the loss, the death of a person is sad but quite common and a certainty in life. But the manner and violence of his passing is an important factor and such homenage is fitting all things considered.

Its something to make us remember the kind of impact one can have in our comunity, and also to remember what effects such acts of terrorism can have in other lives and why such things should never happen again.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]

highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2012-09-12 14:30:44 UTC
Jake Maverick wrote:
signed. signed a thousand times for either the system name change or an in game station monument, or both.

As for "Player owned monuments" This sounds really nice at first, but as eve players We'd probably litter eve with them, or sully their meaning by finding some way to abuse them, for example to mess people up by jamming them in inconvenient places. But Nothing stops us from naming any thing that is anchorable in his honor. A station, a POS, a container. w/e you can anchor you can name in honor of the fallen.




Check Zagdul's post on page 1. There are now over 300 Stations with VR's name on them through out the CFC and HBC

FC, what do?

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