Skill Discussions

I only quoted the interesting part, since the rest has been answered in my previous posts, and to be honest, training all 3 chars to max levels is beyond dumb, but that's just me.


I'm talking as an example a skill that may cost 25 billion( or more), for a ship that may take more than 6 months to build, so significantly longer to train and build the ship, wich can only be done in 0.0 sovereign space and forces said player to defend the area for that entire time.....Think of it as the amount of skill training, cost and logistics a titan requires, but multiplied several times over in terms of difficulty to keep it challenging and something even the richest players in the game would have difficulty recovering from it's loss.


And yes i've done all those activities and even multiple different activities at the same time, and had to take breaks from the game to avoid getting bored stupid, and wondering what's the point when i have most of what's possible to accomplish in game already done, and no it doesn't work the same as a real life pistol, since in EVE, there's this thing called a server and what it allows you to do or not has limits based on how high your skills are trained, and once they're maxed out, they're maxed out and that sabre simple won't be a better support ship no matter how long you fly it....In case you haven't noticed yet, no one not even the owner of the titan, gives a **** if he loses it in combat because he can easily replace it....What's wrong with this picture?


You'd have more of a point in a first person shooter type of game, or if EVE allowed joystick control in first person view and full neutonian physics( like independence war 1 and 2).....The players ability to fly the ship with more freedom and applying the skills he's practiced for years would be felt more in this scenario, not in a game where the navigation is done with a mouse, and the physics are no where near realistic to begin with.....Ask those bumping ships

Not interested in training 130+ million SP in skills i have no interest at all, and i do believe i told you this several times already.


Titans showed up in 2005, so it's been 7 years since they showed up, and it's also why i said an even tougher ship to build would take over 6 months to make, and all the isk in the world wouldn't make a difference to speed that up, same goes for training....In short, instead of having 700~800 titans built in those 7 years since they were introduced, we'd be lucky to see 100 of the new ships within the next 7 years, and you can bet the owner will ***** and moan when he loses it since it takes 6 months to build it.


As for the joystick, i loved orbiting larger ships in independence war using a side strafing technique, while having the problem of keeping my ships weapons pointed at the ship and letting it have it until it blows up.

I understand your argument as another of the quad titan maxed people but I have to be honest and say each of my accounts has a high sec, 0.0 and supercapital or booster character so I've really never run out of training targets despite playing since late 2003. It was my accomodation to just the problem you have and I mentally argued to myself that it meant I could always have enough pilots on to do whatever corp or alliance needed to do. That said I do have a "few" accounts and will never be described as a solo player.

Fair enough, but i'm just the one that believes that CCP got involved in too many projects at once, and what shouldn't be possible even if only as a single player, is happening and the release schedule for content aimed for older players has slipped quite dramatically with the focuses on the new player experience for the last several expansions, dust 514, the time and resources taken with walking in stations wich only a single room is in game.


Remember the big fuss CCP made over tech 3 ships?.....who here thinks that even after all this time, we'd still be stuck with only tech 3 cruisers and not have other classes of ships?.....That's the way CCP has been operating for years now, by making big promises and delivering a small portion of what they promised, even after all this time.

It's unavoidable unfortunately as those that hung this long with the game, thru all the patches, expansions, re- balancing of pretty much everything for all races and professions at any given time have adapted to everything CCP throw at us and then some, and never complained thru it all.....Now that we want newer and harder objectives to acheive, wich will imply more powerfull modules and ships, everyone else goes ballistic since they don't want the skill gap to further increase between young players and older ones.

You don't need more powerful ships and modules to give new and harder objectives to achieve. In fact, as other games have shown, adding such things just makes much of the game easier and less varied.

Power creep isn't unavoidable. On the contrary, it's something that must be avoided because it slowly destroys any semblance of game balance.

Should new skills be released for extremely high SP characters they should open up new paths rather than strengthen existing ones.

Well the game is primarily a space ship game( or at least used to be), so what do you suggest adding that is both extremely challenging and worth training....I'm all ears.

Go start up and run an Alliance. That should be a good challenge for a while.

New Skills are not the same as New Challenges.

I was already in 4 of them over the years, and quite frankly, i don't need the hassle with the politics, backroom deals, back stabbing and overall paranoia involved with that aspect.....Besides, real life and the job wouldn't allow me enough time to supervise said aliance's evolution( or demise...)

Then pick another challenge. Master a ship in combat. Master the art of market manipulation.

Adding a skill to your skill queue is not a challenge.


By the way, if you're not in an Alliance and only have one character, how would you build (let alone use) one of these new Super-Titans you're proposing?