EVE General Discussion

Asteroids keep re-condensing from debris of exploded ships. Its the circle of life.

If only 1% of the asteroids are useful in Titan building, then that 1 trillion Titans becomes 10 billion Titans. If only .01% are useful then that's 100 million Titans.

Taking a small percent of a big number is still a big number, especially when dealing with Space Numbers.

edit: Percent v. decimal fix.

Depleted? No. Scannable? Absogoddamnlutely.

Keep the current static asteroid fields but starve them out to the point that it's just scraps of ore here and there. There's no need to remove said asteroid fields entirely cause you can do so many other things with them later on anyway.

The real goodies should be scanned down as anomalies. It's not like it's impossible or that there is a lack of space in any given star system

Presto', the first step towards a dynamic resource system is in place. Next step would be a simply matter of tweaking the amounts and what kinds you find. Heck, now you could make all ore types available in every security system but in lesser amounts or occurrence depending on the level of security versus rarity of the ore. For example, the occurrence of ABC ores in a 1.0 system would be extremely rare and in tiny amounts, and be nothing more than a small goodie-bag, cause hey. rare is rare. The regular veldspar stuff would be common like it is today.

Next step is simply a matter of scaling type and rarity with said security status. Overall the difference wouldn't be much from how it is today, except it would be better distributed and much easier to control should balancing ever be required. On top of that you could now open up the possibility of having "random scenarios" that liven up the sandbox a bit. Cause face it, events beyond player control do happen. Incursions is one of them. Why not have events which effect mineral availability for whatever reason? Suddenly an area is starved of minerals because of whatever reason thus the odds of finding anomalies are reduced in that area and this could go on for a few days.

This alone could potentially also cause a population shift towards low-sec by a tiiiiny fraction of a percent. But hey, it'd be better than nothing at all. And regardless it'd be a step in the right direction on several levels. Bots would have a slightly harder time, miners would have a slightly better safetynet - ever so slightly. Hunters would actually have to hunt (though, like always, I still want a proper submarine system for all of this).

Remember kids, static stuff is bad most of the time! Dynamic stuff is good most of the time! Dynamic stuff which provides variety and freedom is the best!

That was kind of my point.

Hehe, leave the poor noobs alone when u started there was ABC in empire!

My point is if that *one* real world asteroid belt could produce 10 million Titans (at 0.01% asteroid usage, or 10 billion at 1% asteroid usage) I don't think Eve would have a problem with asteroid depletion even with the large span of time that Eve lore covers.

OTOH, perhaps we should ping CCP Diagoras and see if he can calculate the entire mass of minerals ever mined since Eve has been around.

Grav Sites

So the suggestion is we would have to chase after sigs each day. No Sig in your system, your whole fleet has to move to the next. Your pos, corp offices, and stations are not mobile though, so you have to haul everything back. Yeah, let's suggest a change that adds countless hours of hi sec carebear hauling because it's a sure fire way to create more pvp and player interactive content.

What are you all smoking? Do you really thing that adding at a minimum half an hour of carebear scanning and hauling a day will improve eve? Do you think that such extra tedium will encourage people to stay? And how will a new player be able to get into mining?

Well, at least let's add a 3rd hi slot, a civilian probe launcher, and civilian probes to all rookie ships, plus probing skills to all new players so they could put the civilian miner to use.

Seriously, do the people who make such outlandish suggestions ever think about how such changes would impact a new player? How does this sound, "welcome to eve, we know you may want to sit in our sandbox and work towards building castles, but instead of hitting the ground running, spend a month learning how to probe and other skills before you can mine"?

That hard to organize yourself ? How do you have the strength to even push a button I wonder? Or do you have dozens of dozens of people doing mining ops in high-sec each and single day? You know, I've done that in the past - granted it was in null-sec, but even after a few days it becomes quite the exhaustive activity.

But yes, this feature would make mining a bit more demanding due to the additions of a couple of extra steps, but the gains at the same time would be that much greater for everyone.

New players? They can easily start off at regular belts and learn about scanning etc in the meantime. Or do you claim that new players fly hulks from the get-go?

Wasn't the suggestion to remove regular belts? and if not, wouldn't they be mined out by other players like myself far far faster in hulks and such, leaving new players nothing to mine?

As for the logistics, have you flown ships that warp at .8 au across a large system? Or 2.7 au for an orca? Again, why do you want to add extra carebear time to the game? Seems like unnecessary complications just to satisfy the desire to make the game realistic in one minor manner.